[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Eeek]

TBH this is one of the dumbest things you can do. He is why. If you maker us use KS, which i know i have like 100 of, from doing the bcnm for the NOT 100% drops for BB, Now i have to go waste my time, trying to get more KS, WHich once agian, has shit drop rates. SO what your telling me is. FUCK YOU, YOU CANT HAVE YOUR BLACK BELT. ANd i ante with, ok do it, and watch people quit, and you lose money.

Any rational person could figure out that the Devs are using KS99s as the starting point both to revitalize that content and to place a limiting factor on number of pops and the speed at which they can be produced. Don't get me wrong, the KS99s and Kings will be swamped for weeks after this update, but over time, the stress on the content will subside as people burn through their stocks of seals.

We've already covered why this update will make it easier for MNKs to get a Black Belt, so there's no reason to go back over it.

Farming Kindred Seals is easy. Just spend time outside Abyssea skilling up, leveling, or upgrading Magian weapons( or any number of other things). You'll build up KS in no time.

I swear, this is a flashback to that quest to break the Level 80 cap. People bitched and moaned about something so simple as getting 5 Kindred Crests. I was constantly stunned by the number of people who struggled so hard with the concept of "just kill Level 70+ mobs" and treated it as if the quest was more punishing than RDM Maat.

[Xenotime]

If you read the post HQ Pop item isnt 100% they only put the disclaimer for the at least 100% on the ksnm 99's. So you can do 6 KSNM's and get 6 pops for NQ and do 6 NQ's and get 0-1 hq pops. This is how SE works dont fool yourself into thinking you'll get 100% HQ pops. I am HAPPY not concerned about the removal from NQ's because I dont think every monk deserves a black belt. I feel like the blackbelt is your right of passage and you need to earn it through gil or camping/claiming the nms yourself.

I have thought this adjustment through and the point of this is to open the nms up to the public. HNM LS's that bot claimed had access to all three nms every day of the week for years. Why is it silly to give people access to all three nm's once every three days instead of making them only have access to one of the three nms as long as they have 99 ks's and the ppl to do the ksnm. This is a system that will open up access to these nms only so long as they have ks's and that wont last long with ppl having to shell out 99 a pop for one try at an hq pop. I'd rather if they were going to open it up to the public that they'd give us similar access as the hnm bot ls's had.

tell you what, then you give me your seals, so i can finish my bb, and we have a deal.

[Eeek]

If you read the post HQ Pop item isnt 100% they only put the disclaimer for the at least 100% on the ksnm 99's. So you can do 6 KSNM's and get 6 pops for NQ and do 6 NQ's and get 0-1 hq pops. This is how SE works dont fool yourself into thinking you'll get 100% HQ pops. I am HAPPY not concerned about the removal from NQ's because I dont think every monk deserves a black belt. I feel like the blackbelt is your right of passage and you need to earn it through gil or camping/claiming the nms yourself.

I have thought this adjustment through and the point of this is to open the nms up to the public. HNM LS's that bot claimed had access to all three nms every day of the week for years. Why is it silly to give people access to all three nm's once every three days instead of making them only have access to one of the three nms as long as they have 99 ks's and the ppl to do the ksnm. This is a system that will open up access to these nms only so long as they have ks's and that wont last long with ppl having to shell out 99 a pop for one try at an hq pop. I'd rather if they were going to open it up to the public that they'd give us similar access as the hnm bot ls's had.

How to obtain the trigger items:

Fafnir: Treasure from “Early Bird Catches the Wyrm”
Nidhogg: Treasure dropped by Fafnir
Behemoth: Treasure from “Horns of War”
King Behemoth: Treasure dropped by Behemoth
Adamantoise: Treasure from “The Hills are Alive”
Aspidochelone: Treasure dropped by Adamantoise

* At least one of these items will be dropped in every battle.

Dude.......

[Ravensbane]

Without joining a HNM ls or having a large group of friends willing to help with the KSNM99, the BB items were already hard to get. I have been wanting my BB for years, but refused to join botting ls's to get it. This just made it that much harder. You say the dev's are finally listening to the players? How so? Making these nms force pops is a great idea and long over due, but requiring these hurdles is just horrible. ; ; On top of making the HNM's harder to pop, killing the drop rate is just sickening.

I have been farming/saving KS to spam the KSNM99 to get my last 2 BB items, but still dont have enough people willing(or able) to help. lol If you see me on and are willing to help with the KSNM's, let me know. I will FL everything but the BB items. With the huge increase of gimp 90's out there I do not want to do /sh for help. >.< Maybe I will get lucky and some random ls will offer to help with the KSNM without the typical 2mil per item charge on Quetz.

[Denabond]

To the people who want BB, just suck it up, farm the seals, and kill the NMs. SE is not obligated to simply hand you the BB items. This is technically better then before where you were stuck camping against other people, or having to wake up in the middle of the night for it to pop. There will be overcrowding at first, but it will die out as people run out of their initial stock of KSs.

Edit: To the people who don't have the friends to help kill these NMs, if your on Lakshmi, I'm willing to help whenever.

[Xenotime]

To the people who want BB, just suck it up, farm the seals, and kill the NMs. SE is not obligated to simply hand you the BB items. This is technically better then before where you were stuck camping against other people, or having to wake up in the middle of the night for it to pop. There will be overcrowding at first, but it will die out as people run out of their initial stock of KSs.

they are also not obligated to make our life a living hell either.

[Twille]

When they say "AT LEAST" one of these items will be dropped in every battle, can we hope that a KS99 run could drop multiple NQ pop times? now THAT would be nice.
I still think the HQs should drop possible NQ pop items.

[Michaeluk]

@ Eeeekystain

Maybe it is you who should go re-read the orginal post on this, i have copied it exactly below and notice it's not how you claimed and no were does it state the item to pop the hq kings is 100%

How to obtain the trigger items:

Fafnir: Treasure from “Early Bird Catches the Wyrm”
Behemoth: Treasure from “Horns of War”
Adamantoise: Treasure from “The Hills are Alive”
* At least one of these items will be dropped in every battle.

Nidhogg: Treasure dropped by Fafnir
King Behemoth: Treasure dropped by Behemoth
Aspidochelone: Treasure dropped by Adamantoise

[Denabond]

they are also not obligated to make our life a living hell either.

This is a game. If its hell for you to play this, why play?

[Eeek]

they are also not obligated to make our life a living hell either.

If you think this new system is somehow worse than the current 21-24 hour window for NQs and the 3-7 days window for HQs, I want to know how you remember to breath. Seriously. In the name of scientific research.