[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Elexia]

Only problem I see with this is it's SE's typical give and take type system.

We'll give you easier to pop NMs, but you'll have to go through hoops of fire to do so.

We'll let you pop an NM path you want but you need to take pictures first.

We'll let you pop even more NMs using a KI, but you have to go to x,y,z zone and pop them in tiers, oh and they can spawn as shadow meaning no drops.

So yeah, change is cool but the pop items for example coulda been simple and to the point like Abyssea's, but it does get people out of abyssea so I'm happy.

[Karbuncle]

Only problem I see with this is it's SE's typical give and take type system.

We'll give you easier to pop NMs, but you'll have to go through hoops of fire to do so.

We'll let you pop an NM path you want but you need to take pictures first.

We'll let you pop even more NMs using a KI, but you have to go to x,y,z zone and pop them in tiers, oh and they can spawn as shadow meaning no drops.

So yeah, change is cool but the pop items for example coulda been simple and to the point like Abyssea's, but it does get people out of abyssea so I'm happy.

If the pops were as easy to get as they are in Abyssea, I think there would be an entirely different type of Crying on these forums.

but trust me, There woulds till be complaining :\

People will always complain. Its usually because those people who are like "SWEET, this Update rocks" are probably sitting behind their computer not bothering to type it because of all the "Negative" responses, they don't wanna get in a huge flame war with someone because they think its a good update, and the other guy doesn't.

So we mostly see people complaining, and a few people saying its good.

[Greatguardian]

If the pops were as easy to get as they are in Abyssea, I think there would be an entirely different type of Crying on these forums.

but trust me, There woulds till be complaining :\

People will always complain. Its usually because those people who are like "SWEET, this Update rocks" are probably sitting behind their computer not bothering to type it because of all the "Negative" responses, they don't wanna get in a huge flame war with someone because they think its a good update, and the other guy doesn't.

So we mostly see people complaining, and a few people saying its good.

I think this update rocks. Seriously, this is the bomb. I've had a Black Belt for years, I'm not even mayad that they're making it easier to get. All this means is I can farm up some Nlegs for my buddy's CDC set without worrying about Einherjar or 3am Nid camping.

[Karbuncle]

I think this update rocks. Seriously, this is the bomb. I've had a Black Belt for years, I'm not even mayad that they're making it easier to get. All this means is I can farm up some Nlegs for my buddy's CDC set without worrying about Einherjar or 3am Nid camping.

Need to find myself a pair of Cursed Subligar -1 for my THF's WS set >.>;;

[Krisan]

If the pops were as easy to get as they are in Abyssea, I think there would be an entirely different type of Crying on these forums.

but trust me, There woulds till be complaining :\

People will always complain. Its usually because those people who are like "SWEET, this Update rocks" are probably sitting behind their computer not bothering to type it because of all the "Negative" responses, they don't wanna get in a huge flame war with someone because they think its a good update, and the other guy doesn't.

So we mostly see people complaining, and a few people saying its good.

Man, you seem to have some of the most sensible posts I've seen on here. Yeah, I'd say that's very true.

[Runespider]

Only problem I see with this is it's SE's typical give and take type system.

We'll give you easier to pop NMs, but you'll have to go through hoops of fire to do so.

We'll let you pop an NM path you want but you need to take pictures first.

We'll let you pop even more NMs using a KI, but you have to go to x,y,z zone and pop them in tiers, oh and they can spawn as shadow meaning no drops.

So yeah, change is cool but the pop items for example coulda been simple and to the point like Abyssea's, but it does get people out of abyssea so I'm happy.

It's an MMO, duh? This will still be better than the previous system, far far more people will get to fight them than ever before.

my point I was trying to get across is that it is too low with the way things ARE. so any kind of drop lowering makes it even more intolerable.

Don't do it then, brown belt is more than good enough for everything you want to kill in lolabyssea.

[Elexia]

It's an MMO, duh? This will still be better than the previous system, far far more people will get to fight them than ever before.

It is indeed an MMO, however the majority of MMOs I've played and currently play aren't built around such a two sided update regimen.

It's mostly the fact that they tend throw you into content that get rarely utilized in order to do what you wanted. There's nothing wrong with having to do prerequisites...but it's the type of prereqs that tend to be laid before you. It is better than open world claim, but it's still going to be the same general few spamming it unless the item vanishes after use.

[Rorald]

I agree that there needed to be changes to the Nms but the method said here seems totally backwards to me. If this were 2 or more years ago then probably would be outstanding, but with the progressing of this game i feel like this is making it even HARDER to get the desired items.
I myself have seen Nidhogg, Aspid, and KB all unclaimed walking around several times on my server in the past few months.

Simple fact is people arnt going to farm KSs for these bc's and they wont be done after the first month of spamming what ks's everyone has, the only way this would be good is if the droprate for defending ring and ridill were increased.

My suggestion would be to switch it from KS to KC so its relevant to current play styles.

[Topdogg]

How is this a step back?? I think this is a great idea and yes, this update rocks. I can't believe the number of ppl crying over this because theres more work involved. This will balance out in the end, dont worry. And if you want KS's, take your DRK to cape with your twilight scythe and go crazy. But yeah, like a previous reply said, we asked for this and SE gave it to us. And I thank them.

[Rambus]

How is this a step back?? I think this is a great idea and yes, this update rocks. I can't believe the number of ppl crying over this because theres more work involved. This will balance out in the end, dont worry. And if you want KS's, take your DRK to cape with your twilight scythe and go crazy. But yeah, like a previous reply said, we asked for this and SE gave it to us. And I thank them.

was told it dont proc much outside abyssea.

SE is obsessed with super low drop rates ( look what I said on my experience on egg) I have to do more work because i am unlucky????????????

Wonder if more people are thinking like me, gonna try farm real NM for egg because drop rate in ksnm is so piss poor.