Raise your item level to 119 by completing a tutorial quest!

[Secondplanet]

I'm personally laughing with how the legendary weapons are being treated, you got i119, then i119 with afterglow and then the new i119 with increased stats and afterglow but all remain i119. I was already against the idea of having levels on equipment but this is getting out of hand. Either raise the item levels higher to reflect their stats or scrap the already meaningless and rather misleading system.

[machini]

I'm personally laughing with how the legendary weapons are being treated, you got i119, then i119 with afterglow and then the new i119 with increased stats and afterglow but all remain i119. I was already against the idea of having levels on equipment but this is getting out of hand. Either raise the item levels higher to reflect their stats or scrap the already meaningless and rather misleading system.

It was a poorly implemented system in multiple ways, and refusal to raise the item level cap to reflect the increasing power of gear is but one of those ways.
Another would be stat vomit on gear. By stat vomit I mean how everything has loads of STR, DEX, etc, on it. It makes it hard to judge what actually has increased stats over the baseline without a lot of switching back and forth between items to compare them. It also blurs job differences, since you can lump together jobs on a single piece of gear that would have different base stat progressions. A much more elegant way to do it would simply to have item level determine your base statistics, just like normal level does. Then there's no stat vomit, and you can clearly see that this piece of gear his 20 DEX on it, or this piece has 15 Evasion.

[Catmato]

It was a poorly implemented system in multiple ways, and refusal to raise the item level cap to reflect the increasing power of gear is but one of those ways.
Another would be stat vomit on gear. By stat vomit I mean how everything has loads of STR, DEX, etc, on it. It makes it hard to judge what actually has increased stats over the baseline without a lot of switching back and forth between items to compare them. It also blurs job differences, since you can lump together jobs on a single piece of gear that would have different base stat progressions. A much more elegant way to do it would simply to have item level determine your base statistics, just like normal level does. Then there's no stat vomit, and you can clearly see that this piece of gear his 20 DEX on it, or this piece has 15 Evasion.

Maybe the new director will do the players a favor and eliminate item levels and just let us level up past 99.

[machini]

Maybe the new director will do the players a favor and eliminate item levels and just let us level up past 99.

Unless they make certain JAs, like Composure, not accessible via subjob, like NIN JAs, I don't see that working.

Also bear in mind they would have to go back at this point through ALL item level gear and redo the stat vomit.

[Pixela]

I'm personally laughing with how the legendary weapons are being treated, you got i119, then i119 with afterglow and then the new i119 with increased stats and afterglow but all remain i119. I was already against the idea of having levels on equipment but this is getting out of hand. Either raise the item levels higher to reflect their stats or scrap the already meaningless and rather misleading system.

Back 6 years ago we had auction house level 75 weapons that were destroyed by other level 75 weapons like relics or ridill etc. This isn't something new so don't act like it is.

To do away with Ilevel now would be impossible because it's become a backbone feature of the game, trust levels are based off it and so are many XP rates. We have a small dev team, they don't need to waste time on removing something because you think some 119 weapons aren't as good as other 119 weapons. You know which are better than others by looking at the stats so why make a fuss about it?

[Secondplanet]

Back 6 years ago we had auction house level 75 weapons that were destroyed by other level 75 weapons like relics or ridill etc. This isn't something new so don't act like it is.

To do away with Ilevel now would be impossible because it's become a backbone feature of the game, trust levels are based off it and so are many XP rates. We have a small dev team, they don't need to waste time on removing something because you think some 119 weapons aren't as good as other 119 weapons. You know which are better than others by looking at the stats so why make a fuss about it?

Back in the days of 75 the difference between 75 gear and amazing 75 gear was 1-3 stat difference, ability modifier and/or a aftermath effect. But even still the difference was there but not to the extreme effect they are now. When you have i119 gear with a difference of 10-20 or even higher on stats that is a whole new level of gear.

[Selindrile]

Back in the days of 75 the difference between 75 gear and amazing 75 gear was 1-3 stat difference, ability modifier and/or a aftermath effect. But even still the difference was there but not to the extreme effect they are now. When you have i119 gear with a difference of 10-20 or even higher on stats that is a whole new level of gear.

Uh.... a lot more than 1-3 stat points different, very often, Ridill, Joyeuse, Hagun, Kraken Club, Maneater, Juggernaut, Relics, Mythics, etc etc etc, I've got gripes about some of the changes, and felt like iLevel could've been implemented better, but some weapons dwarfing others and specific ones being stand out obvious best is really nothing new, in fact I feel like people do have MORE options for endgame weapons and armor than they used to, rather than one clear winner always, I've got my gripes (don't even get me started on random augments), but, I feel like there are at least a few exceptional options on almost any given peice for the most part, rather than one "must-have" like the old days.

[OmnysValefor]

Uh.... a lot more than 1-3 stat points different, very often, Ridill, Joyeuse, Hagun, Kraken Club, Maneater, Juggernaut, Relics, Mythics, etc etc etc, I've got gripes about some of the changes, and felt like iLevel could've been implemented better, but some weapons dwarfing others and specific ones being stand out obvious best is really nothing new, in fact I feel like people do have MORE options for endgame weapons and armor than they used to, rather than one clear winner always, I've got my gripes (don't even get me started on random augments), but, I feel like there are at least a few exceptional options on almost any given peice for the most part, rather than one "must-have" like the old days.

A strong point.

There was AH-buyable level 75 gear that was terrible, there were the old abjurations, there was Sky drops (Byakko's Haidate), there was Relic, Relic +1, Sea gear (Homam <3, torques, ws torques).

There was Aht Urgan gear, ZNM gear, and so many other things.

Most of that stuff had the same number on it, "75", but 75 was representing our level, just as 119 represents a level. The problem of course is a Delve II'd 119 player isn't remotely comparable to someone in full 119 from Escha Ru'Aun.

So as stated earlier in the thread, and other threads, a lot of people see their average ilvl is 119 and think they're ready for the hardest content in the game. Higher gear really needs a higher ilvl so as not to confuse people.

All the gear saying 119 on it leaves the reponsibility on other players to tell each other the truth. It sucks.

[Olor]

Back in the days of 75 the difference between 75 gear and amazing 75 gear was 1-3 stat difference, ability modifier and/or a aftermath effect. But even still the difference was there but not to the extreme effect they are now. When you have i119 gear with a difference of 10-20 or even higher on stats that is a whole new level of gear.

Yes, this is the problem and it means the content is too stratified so if you fall behind there is almost no way to catch up.

[Catmato]

Unless they make certain JAs, like Composure, not accessible via subjob, like NIN JAs, I don't see that working.

That sounds remarkably like 2010 all over again.

You are right about having to redo all the item level gear.