Raise your item level to 119 by completing a tutorial quest!

[Catmato]

We just went from "FFXI will get no more content at all" to " content will continue, with a smaller dev team" and you want them to do something as massive an undertaking as increasing the level cap or something?

How about we leave the system as it is and not do any of that?

It's not like our discussions have any bearing on what the devs do. But yeah, let's leave the broken item level system in place.

[Secondplanet]

It's not like our discussions have any bearing on what the devs do. But yeah, let's leave the broken item level system in place.

Considering that the JP boards get about 5-6 replies from the dev team compared to our 1 i have to agree with that statement. I think there was even a board on the JP portion where they could vote for the next mount that was released.

would be nice if we got a say in this game since you know.... we pay the same subscription.

[Pixela]

Considering that the JP boards get about 5-6 replies from the dev team compared to our 1 i have to agree with that statement. I think there was even a board on the JP portion where they could vote for the next mount that was released.

would be nice if we got a say in this game since you know.... we pay the same subscription.

The developers are Japanese, they probably can't read/write english at all (or not well enough to not cause a PR disaster). They can interact as posters in Japanese as they want to, they can't do that here. They don't hate us, just there is a barrier.

We get the admins here passing some things along and translating it but that's all you're going to get.

[Vold]

Considering that the JP boards get about 5-6 replies from the dev team compared to our 1 i have to agree with that statement. I think there was even a board on the JP portion where they could vote for the next mount that was released.

would be nice if we got a say in this game since you know.... we pay the same subscription.

I don't know, something tells me we english speaking folk are now the dominate players for this game...they may have to start listening to us. Just check the JP forums. Maybe I'm using fuzzy math here, but their general section is ALOT less active than ours right now, if I'm getting the gist of where their general is located in Japanese. I really do think most of the JP abandoned the game after PS2 support ended but maybe I'm wrong...

[Pixela]

I don't know, something tells me we english speaking folk are now the dominate players for this game...they may have to start listening to us. Just check the JP forums. Maybe I'm using fuzzy math here, but their general section is ALOT less active than ours right now, if I'm getting the gist of where their general is located in Japanese. I really do think most of the JP abandoned the game after PS2 support ended but maybe I'm wrong...

It doesn't work based on numbers, it never did. The JP players of XI and XIV were always a minority, it works the same for Korean games.

It's not about numbers it's just that the devs speak that language and so can interact fully to those players.

[Selindrile]

We just went from "FFXI will get no more content at all" to " content will continue, with a smaller dev team" and you want them to do something as massive an undertaking as increasing the level cap or something?

How about we leave the system as it is and not do any of that?

I know that's what we've been seeing Pixela, but did they actually say that as a mission statement at some point? If so I missed it.

And Omnys, it seems I've disagreed with you on a few topics lately as I've posted but on iLevel, we're pretty much on the same page on this one at least it seems so.

[OmnysValefor]

I don't think ilvl should be removed. I didn't like it at first, and I'm not fond of it now, but it's here to stay and it would require significant resources to transfer everything over.

When ilvl first hit, the very first stuff was ilvl 100. There was 106, 113, 115, 119 and probably others, because this gear increased in power. While Kariyeh (the bayld stuff) made a mockery of our previously-hard earned gear. Manibohzo (delve 113 plate) laughed at that. It was sensible that this stuff was higher ilvl because it was clearly more powerful.

But now we've been stuck at "119" for almost three years, and the gear just keeps getting stronger and stronger. I realize that if our current gear said i129 on it, newbies in sparks would feel overwhelmed, but it's deceptive for the game to let them think they're so close when they're miles away.

It makes the players look like elitist when they look at someone in "full 119" and tell them that their gear simply isn't good enough.

And if you're a nice guy, telling someone that--or being told that, really really sucks.

[Olor]

I realize that if our current gear said i129 on it, newbies in sparks would feel overwhelmed, but it's deceptive for the game to let them think they're so close when they're miles away.

It makes the players look like elitist when they look at someone in "full 119" and tell them that their gear simply isn't good enough.

And if you're a nice guy, telling someone that--or being told that, really really sucks.

Honestly I think most people would much prefer the ilevel reflected the actual power level - for a noobie I imagine it is much more overwhelming to learn not all 119 gear is 119 gear and to have to know the systems etc so they can make sensible comparisons of items.

[Cabalabob]

While ilvl gear isn't the most elegant solution since as a SMN, I have i119 in gear but I'm currently i114 because all my best gear is stuff like RF gear. But I have a gearset to be 119 just for summoning trust. Which is a pain. I half hope they'll add a i119 body and leg slot with a can't equip head, hands and feet gear effect on it that gives buffs to trust like trust: acc/attack etc. That makes you 119 and gives trust buffs just so I have a reason to have a gear set specifically for summoning trust.

But I don't agree about power creep, yes there's a difference between delve and reisenjima gear but the same could be said about the 75 era and even the 99 era. You had your entry level gear then your endgame stuff. 75 it was relic gear then you got stuff from sky, limbus and einherjar which was far superior. Aby had the perle set etc. Then you got emp gear which was far superior, this is no different except people are getting hung up on the fact it has an ilvl tag on it.