HP Scaling, Please Remove It

[OmnysValefor]

Some folks don't mind getting help getting geared up though, why should that option be removed just because you don't think it's the way to do things? And let's be honest, people still do leech people up to current basic standards - just only very close friends and the like. And if we're able to get 119 gear from a goblin lottery each day then I don't see why it's fundamentally awful to make it so groups are not punished or completely unable to complete content if they bring more people. At any rate, let's not pretend we haven't all been powerleveling people and such since this game began - no need to let your gear ethics remove an option other people might like to make use of.

If you balance around 6 appropriately geared people, it's not even a challenge when you bring 10+.

Also, you seem to be ignoring the fact that without the HP penalty a lot more folks might actually *be able to* clear the content (especially if time limits were removed from older events) as participatory members as 8 melee whiffing 70 per cent of the time are going to do more damage than 4 melee whiffing 70 per cent of the time - you're also ignoring the issue that a lot of jobs are behind right now and the HP penalty just means zero incentive to bring folks, even folks that can hit the mob, if they are not on a great job. It also does nothing for the health of linkshells to have to basically exclude people all the time.

No, I'm not. If a challenge has X difficulty and you're allowed to throw more bodies at it without the difficulty increasing, it becomes easier. That's obvious.

I might be more sympathetic to your argument Omnys if the game wasn't so out of whack right now. I mean, I have a full set of 119 gear for blu and I spent a lot of gil trying to augment it and I still don't have enough accuracy and DT, and I have zero way of getting into content that would get me that last 100 ACC I need to not whiff all the time. Anyway I wouldn't even have that if I had not happened to be around when bard was still half wanted for stuff.

And this is one of the confusing points of ilvl for a lot of people. Tojil's weapons are 119, so are drops from Reisenjima. The difference between the two is staggering. They shouldn't both be called 119.

And I am willing to play bard but no one wants it... really I don't think telling every player in the game they must level GEO if they want to progress even a bit is a solution.

It's not, play whm, play blm, play geo, play corsair, play sch. Just do it to the best of your ability rather than, as some people insist on, fulltiming one gearset and not understanding why they aren't winning. Putting together a solid whm is very easy these days, something a sparks geared DD can make great headway into. You need a healing potency set, cursna gear, refresh set to idle in, -DT gear, (Earth Staff is still a decent start for this actually, when you're not controlling trusts), whm empy pants (reforged to 109).

And really, how does it hurt you if other people are able to help their friends? I don't understand it. Why be against it?[/QUOTE]

Because you can't simply say "You can bring 3x or 6x the players and the fight won't be any harder" without major ramifications.

Right now the content is designed that, whatever the size of your group (3 or more), you can go and kill it if the combined skill is enough.

A lot of this is people just wanting to leapfrog content.

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I am truly sorry if I come off as mean or anything like it. I help people, and I do carry people. I've helped probably a dozen different people get Rawhide armor or various UNMs. I play PLD and GEO because I like to bridge the gap but just because I'm helping people through entry level content doesn't mean I'd want them at Hidhaegg (ilvl Nidhogg) or Sovereign Behemoth.

Take those two for example, they will wipe out an undergeared group, hp-scaling or not. And they should, that's how MMOs work. You don't ding cap and then go kill some of the hardest bosses.