Job balancing?

[VoiceMemo]

I'm perfectly fine with buffing NQ brd, but not at the expense that a REM brd's boost becomes a pittance, where there is regret for having done all that work to obtain the legendary instruments/weapon. If NQ brd gets boosted REM brd should also get a boost.

Why does mediocrity need to be the norm, what about those that strive for exceptionalism?

As for mechanics of brd mobs that dispel songs are annoying yes but that's part of the job, something you have to deal with, dealing with multiple songs is the same thing, the way the job was designed. You don't see me asking for smn to be changed(I really don't like the mechanics of the job) so I don't play it. Let those of us who like to play the job to keep playing it. The number/way songs are applied don't really need any change, just the difference in power between NQ, REM, and GEO.

Coloration of song icons with numbers would be the best way to identify which song is on party members, but SE already said no to it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-Icons-for-BRD

[detlef]

I'm perfectly fine with buffing NQ brd, but not at the expense that a REM brd's boost becomes a pittance, where there is regret for having done all that work to obtain the legendary instruments/weapon. If NQ brd gets boosted REM brd should also get a boost.

Buffing the baseline of a job affects the top tier of the job too you know. Stop talking about “REM brd” when you really mean Gjallarhorn, the only RME that affects potency. The one that’s already “a pittance” for almost every song.

Why does mediocrity need to be the norm, what about those that strive for exceptionalism?

Yeah, I think you’re going to have to get over yourself.

As for mechanics of brd mobs that dispel songs are annoying yes but that's part of the job, something you have to deal with, dealing with multiple songs is the same thing, the way the job was designed. You don't see me asking for smn to be changed(I really don't like the mechanics of the job) so I don't play it. Let those of us who like to play the job to keep playing it. The number/way songs are applied don't really need any change, just the difference in power between NQ, REM, and GEO.

BRD is super clunky to play, I’m surprised that you wouldn’t have any suggestions to streamline its play. If you think that the method to apply 4 full-strength songs can’t be improved then I don’t know what to say.

As an example, it would be nice if “one additional song” instruments just put up a dummy song that would be overwritten by the next song you put up, rather than the song with the lowest duration being overwritten. I think we’ve all had issues reapplying songs where the current set of buffs have a shorter duration than even a non-buffed Daurdabla song.

Coloration of song icons with numbers would be the best way to identify which song is on party members, but SE already said no to it.

Yes, that would help. Still, you’ll never know which of the two marches needs to be reapplied or whether it was Blade or Sword Madrigal that was dispelled. That’s why I proposed making the top tier song of each type as strong as doubling down on that song currently (and to balance things, only allow one song of each type). I know this would weaken your precious Gjallarhorn which costs maybe 65m on my server but it’s for the greater good.

[VoiceMemo]

Yeah, I think you’re going to have to get over yourself.

This kindof shows your age to resort to personal attacks. I've not attacked your views. I've just expressed mine.

But this kindof thinking is like todays youth of that EVERYONE gets a trophy, not just the ones that were the MVP.

As an example, it would be nice if “one additional song” instruments just put up a dummy song that would be overwritten by the next song you put up, rather than the song with the lowest duration being overwritten. I think we’ve all had issues reapplying songs where the current set of buffs have a shorter duration than even a non-buffed Daurdabla song.

I've NEVER had overwrite order issues with Daurdabla. I remove my Emp Neck and Body when casting the Daurdabla dummy songs which reduces those song duration by 24 sec(20%) and then reapply with Gjallarhorn songs at full 4 min 51sec power.

[detlef]

This kindof shows your age to resort to personal attacks. I've not attacked your views. I've just expressed mine.

But this kindof thinking is like todays youth of that EVERYONE gets a trophy, not just the ones that were the MVP.

I’m a little surprised you picked that one bit to respond to without addressing the views I expressed. I do think you need to get over yourself so I guess I’m sorry if you take it personally. It’s not so much everyone gets a trophy, it’s being allowed to compete. And I say this as someone who’s got the same stuff you got. Unless you have a Marsyas, then your word is the word of god.

I mean, are you still going to stuff on BRD? I made myself an Idris and find very little reason to bring BRD to much of anything anymore.

I've NEVER had overwrite order issues with Daurdabla. I remove my Emp Neck and Body when casting the Daurdabla dummy songs which reduces those song duration by 24 sec(20%) and then reapply with Gjallarhorn songs at full 4 min 51sec power.

Scenario: You put up 4 songs that are max duration. One of them is dispelled. You put up a dummy song with Daurdabla (99) so now you have 3 full strength songs and 1 dummy song. However, if you want to put up a full strength song to overwrite the dummy song, it’ll only work if the other three full strength buffs have a remaining duration higher than 130% strength dummy song you just put up. As a career BRD, you’ve never run into this issue?

Also, I want to point out that if you had multiple tiers of the same song (i.e. Minuets or Marches), you wouldn’t know which one was dispelled so reapplying the correct song could end up being a guessing game. That’s something for which I proposed a fix earlier, but you shit all over the idea because it cheapens your efforts for one out of three legendary instruments. Why is Ghorn so sacred to you?

[VoiceMemo]

Unless you have a Marsyas, then your word is the word of god.

I don't have it yet but it is in the works. I have Kirin left and then my only issues would be some of the Reisenjima HELM NMs. But I will get it done because I want to be an exceptional brd.

I mean, are you still going to stuff on BRD? I made myself an Idris and find very little reason to bring BRD to much of anything anymore.

I still do many events on brd, I am able to duo many nms with blue as brd.

Scenario: You put up 4 songs that are max duration. One of them is dispelled. You put up a dummy song with Daurdabla (99) so now you have 3 full strength songs and 1 dummy song. However, if you want to put up a full strength song to overwrite the dummy song, it’ll only work if the other three full strength buffs have a remaining duration higher than 130% strength dummy song you just put up. As a career BRD, you’ve never run into this issue?

Also, I want to point out that if you had multiple tiers of the same song (i.e. Minuets or Marches), you wouldn’t know which one was dispelled so reapplying the correct song could end up being a guessing game. That’s something for which I proposed a fix earlier, but you shit all over the idea because it cheapens your efforts for one out of three legendary instruments.

So you just sing a dummy song and overwrite all 4 songs again at Gjallarhorn power. Is it hard NO, does it take more time, Yes, but then you have a fresh set of full power songs. That is the negative of songs, much like the negative of geo is that 1 of its bubbles is around the caster. Name one job that has all positives with no negatives. Castings songs does not take time with fc/-song casting time gear which is easy to cap now. The ONLY time I would not overwrite is if it were SV songs. If 1 is dispelled I would put on another song that was not part of the 5 that were sung.

Why is Ghorn so sacred to you?

Its not so much sacred as I would like it to be equally boosted. Like I said before I have no issues that NQ brd gets boosted, but those that worked on Gjallarhorn should be boosted more. Much like how a NQ geo can do alot but an idris geo can do even more. This type of tier is what I'm asking for. If NQ brd gets boosted and not Gjallarhorn brd how is this akin to how geo is setup? It's just giving Gjallarhorn power to everyone and forgetting about those that did do the work to get Gjallarhorn. Is this fair?

But to be fair the buff should be put on the mythic, carnwenhan, since Gjallarhorn is relatively easy to get. This would be on par for difficulty as Idris since ergon wep was meant to be mythicish(not from nyzul so isn't really a mythic). The boost would be the combination of Gjallarhorn and Carnwenhan to be on par with Idris geo.