This thread AGAIN, please, fix WK.

[OmnysValefor]

VW still desires 18 people for every vw, to cover as many procs as possible. Some VWs matched against the wrong group even still require it without weakeners. Achuka/Tchakka's drops are now fading in glory but they still require/desire the same number of people as Hurkan and Yumcax.

[Daemon]

Achuka/Tchakka's drops are now fading in glory

Why are they fading?

[detlef]

Why are they fading?

Because the Delve mega bosses drop superior versions, and with yesterday's update are easier than ever to defeat/farm.

[FrankReynolds]

Hey Frank I don't think he meant you personally. I think he said it as in anyone who sends a resume would need to act like an adult and use complete words rather than slang, abbreviations etc due to being a professional request. Which was a good example as to how translators would have to present our ideas to the DEV team in the same manner.

At least that's how I read it.

I've been to Japan in 1999 and believe me it was not very English friendly. Barely any signs are in English. My Japanese friend told me if you want to visit Japan you have to learn the language or have a translator with you at all times so that's why I read his comment as a comparison and not as a direct personal attack on you.

As for abbreviations, FML, TTYL, TBH, LOL, might be known already because everyone uses them all the time online. But this is not standard English that's taught in schools, books, etc. these are terms we made up to save money/time sending walls of text through cellphone messages, online chats and so on.

Equip could mean "equipment" or as in "put it on"

Slang is hard to understand as well like if I said "Why are you being so sketchy?" Or "don't go flake out on us. Then there are sayings like "You know the drill."

Then you have people who write like this "ya brah, dun joo know rAWL ha I joust say you teh udder day, why u is flake out on meh? Das ok yo."

Which can be confusing to those who don't speak English as a first language.

Hope you get a good laugh out of my reply lol...

Oh yeah my favorite one... Did you see the movie bad teacher? When Ms. Squirrel says "Shut the front door." Lol..

Here is a good example of how people (as in translators) can misinterpret and misunderstand English.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpy75q2...%3DBpy75q2DDow

Yeah, I get exactly what you're saying, but Camate isn't an ESL Japanese guy. I'm fairly certain that he understands everything we say just as well as we do and I really doubt he translates it word for word. Could you imagine how mind numbing it would be to do that?

I imagine that he pokes through here and doesn't even bother to mention anything that's already being discussed in the JP threads because the devs read those already. I've never seen a direct response to an English thread from someone on the dev team. Camate et al will occasionally respond directly on behalf of the devs when they know the answer or have something to add, but you will never see a dev response to an English quote.

I imagine the conversation goes like this:

<Translator> Hey guys, there's lot's of chatter in the English forums about <insert current event here>!

<devs> That's nice. Anything interesting?

<Translator> Ummm a bunch of people are mad about <Current problem>.

<devs> That's nice. We responded to a few posts in JP. Maybe if you translate those, they'll calm down.

<translator> Will do.

<devs> Anything else?

<Translator> Well, people are still asking what treasure hunter does...

<dev> LOL we can't remember what it does. Just tell them it is a good idea to have it. I remember it was good for something...

[svengalis]

The boots and cap are certainly amazing right now, however, all gear is going to look this amazing because they're artificially inflating our level and making this absurdly complex.

I would so much just rather be level 110 than all this crazy gear.

I think even the developers have realized that the leveling at this point has become pointless.

[Daemon]

Yeah, I get exactly what you're saying, but Camate isn't an ESL Japanese guy. I'm fairly certain that he understands everything we say just as well as we do and I really doubt he translates it word for word. Could you imagine how mind numbing it would be to do that?

I imagine that he pokes through here and doesn't even bother to mention anything that's already being discussed in the JP threads because the devs read those already. I've never seen a direct response to an English thread from someone on the dev team. Camate et al will occasionally respond directly on behalf of the devs when they know the answer or have something to add, but you will never see a dev response to an English quote.

I imagine the conversation goes like this:

<Translator> Hey guys, there's lot's of chatter in the English forums about <insert current event here>!

<devs> That's nice. Anything interesting?

<Translator> Ummm a bunch of people are mad about <Current problem>.

<devs> That's nice. We responded to a few posts in JP. Maybe if you translate those, they'll calm down.

<translator> Will do.

<devs> Anything else?

<Translator> Well, people are still asking what treasure hunter does...

<dev> LOL we can't remember what it does. Just tell them it is a good idea to have it. I remember it was good for something...

I'd be afraid to do Calmates job. Every time he post a reply, some may agree, some may complain, some may take his words and twist the context of what he was replying to.

Sometimes the best thing to do is only respond to the majority at once, than reply to every single post.

Then again if the DEV team was NA, it might be the other way around where JPs would wonder why translators don't address them directly.

Kind of the same as Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes just want people to stop harassing them when being a star draws too much attention. Sometimes unwanted attention at best.

Look at Michael Jackson. The man has moved on to the afterlife and people still til this very day bring him up as if he was still alive..

[OmnysValefor]

I think even the developers have realized that the leveling at this point has become pointless.

Yeah, I don't know that we needed a level cap increase, but between leveling artificially through gear and attaining real levels, I'd rather have the real level.

[svengalis]

Seriously look at what you are saying? How long would it take if everyone on the entire server got what they wanted every fight? Then what? Devs cannot keep pumping out content every week...

I wonder how the economy would be effected when RMT could leech off 1 WR and do minimal work to get such items?

Then again how many lazy people will show up gimp and do the same?

The economy is probably the best it has ever been in this game right now because all the good gear is rare ex.

[Daemon]

Yeah, I don't know that we needed a level cap increase, but between leveling artificially through gear and attaining real levels, I'd rather have the real level.

I just wish Devs would fix our inventory crisis or raise level/stats so we don't have to carry so much equipment. Ugh I'm tired of repeating this like a broken record.

Haven't been on the game for a week now. Haven't even updated the new version either. Why? Inventory. Too mazy to figure which rare/ex gear I should toss.

[Daemon]

The economy is probably the best it has ever been in this game right now because all the good gear is rare ex.

But it's getting to the point where some of us cannot store all the rare/ex gear in slips and have no more room in inventory leading us to decide which pieces do we toss out? I just hope it doesn't reach to the point where you have to decide if its best to throw away Tocis or Thuradaunt? Can't be stored in moogle... As for Tocis I could pulse it but then would I ever find 17 people to spam it 1,000+ times to get another one? Or should I waste my Bayld I've been saving for WR to buy another Thuradaunt?