This thread AGAIN, please, fix WK.

[Demon6324236]

I was implying 1 good drop every fight.

Ok, and this would be bad because? Realistically as I said, these fights have a high cost to entry, need a very large number of people, and take a very long time to do by compare to any other event in the game, I fail to understand how bring guaranteed a single valuable drop can be such a bad thing. Really, I do not get it, and I doubt after my own experience with these fights anything could convince me that its not a horrible design choice which should be changed.

[Demon6324236]

Off topic things about VW

I have no problem continuing that talk with you in game, but I specifically put the large bolded statement at the top to point out it was off topic in hopes it could be left out of this thread.

[Daemon]

Ok, and this would be bad because? Realistically as I said, these fights have a high cost to entry, need a very large number of people, and take a very long time to do by compare to any other event in the game, I fail to understand how bring guaranteed a single valuable drop can be such a bad thing. Really, I do not get it, and I doubt after my own experience with these fights anything could convince me that its not a horrible design choice which should be changed.

This would be bad because look at it from my point of view... You are talking about every single player. If 150+ player are at only 1 Nakuul and got 1 good drop every round 750+ players would be at 5 Nakuuls and due to different time zones people would possibly be doing these more than once per day and some would be able to earn Bayld fast enough to play twice a day..

5 Nakuuls

Colkhab 4 items
Tchakka 5 items
Achuka 4 items
Yumcax 6 items
Hurkan 6 items

25 items total. If a person plays 1 Nakuul per day in 25 days you and every single player will be done with WR in 25 days.

Twice a day and you will be done in 11 days.

Really?? Then what will happen when you have every item? Farm synthesis materials? For how long? Then what? Devs can release new WR content every month?

And what will happen when most people stop doing WR and others trying to do it can't find enough people?

I don't want to waste my time paying to play a game that can allow something like this to happen..,
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Dia...rea,15649.html

(infact I gave this game (Diablo III) the bird and never touched it again after I found out that and haven't touched it since.) >.>

Who plays VW for the gear anymore? I certainly don't want WR to end up like VW.

And if 1 good drop was guaranteed what would happen when people join and do barely nothing but park character and wait doing only a few heals or hits. Or even join in at 5% and wait for others to kill it?

And if everyone was allowed to get 1 good drop per Nakuul. A balance in the game will be way off where more than 150 people would join in WR as fast as possible before the event dies out. Lag issues, all other content totally dead..

Devs are not stupid.

[Daemon]

I have no problem continuing that talk with you in game, but I specifically put the large bolded statement at the top to point out it was off topic in hopes it could be left out of this thread.

Actually it wasn't off topic when I brought it up earlier. I just used VW as a comparison to WR.

[Daemon]

Don't get me wrong ill always agree if people suggest something reasonable. You can see in many of my comments and replies that I have agreed with many on various topics.

But you guys also have to look at the entire community as a whole and not just from how you feel from your point of view over content thats brand new because suggestions like the one I'm defending I'm thinking about the after effects of what would or could happen.

Barely have I stood up for the DEV team but I have to on this one. Regardless of how bad we want things easier and how we want items... I'm not here being an elitist saying "You need to earn your status"

I'm just looking at the previous content and comparing how things happened from changes that although may be good but every change has its bad effects that go with it.

[Zarchery]

Why? They don't read this. Translators do it and they know what we mean.

Kind of for the same reason you don't turn in resumes riddled with abbreviations, slang, and spelling errors. You're trying to make a professional request, act like an adult and use complete words.

[Vivivivi]

225k Bayld for 2 ore and 1 log... My computer screen would be shattered by the aura of my anger.

At least I got skillups! Ohwait....

[FrankReynolds]

You're trying to make a professional request, act like an adult and use complete words.

No I'm not. This is a video game and the person translating it knows exactly what we're talking about. And who says what's "adult" and "professional" anyways? I'm 36 years old. The IT (Notice I said IT? That's what people in the industry call it. They abbreviate.) staff and budgets I run are probably bigger than the FFXI team has atm. If I do it, then it's what professional adults do.

[Daemon]

No I'm not. This is a video game and the person translating it knows exactly what we're talking about. And who says what's "adult" and "professional" anyways? I'm 36 years old. The IT (Notice I said IT? That's what people in the industry call it. They abbreviate.) staff and budgets I run are probably bigger than the FFXI team has atm. If I do it, then it's what professional adults do.

Hey Frank I don't think he meant you personally. I think he said it as in anyone who sends a resume would need to act like an adult and use complete words rather than slang, abbreviations etc due to being a professional request. Which was a good example as to how translators would have to present our ideas to the DEV team in the same manner.

At least that's how I read it.

I've been to Japan in 1999 and believe me it was not very English friendly. Barely any signs are in English. My Japanese friend told me if you want to visit Japan you have to learn the language or have a translator with you at all times so that's why I read his comment as a comparison and not as a direct personal attack on you.

As for abbreviations, FML, TTYL, TBH, LOL, might be known already because everyone uses them all the time online. But this is not standard English that's taught in schools, books, etc. these are terms we made up to save money/time sending walls of text through cellphone messages, online chats and so on.

Equip could mean "equipment" or as in "put it on"

Slang is hard to understand as well like if I said "Why are you being so sketchy?" Or "don't go flake out on us. Then there are sayings like "You know the drill."

Then you have people who write like this "ya brah, dun joo know rAWL ha I joust say you teh udder day, why u is flake out on meh? Das ok yo."

Which can be confusing to those who don't speak English as a first language.

Hope you get a good laugh out of my reply lol...

Oh yeah my favorite one... Did you see the movie bad teacher? When Ms. Squirrel says "Shut the front door." Lol..

Here is a good example of how people (as in translators) can misinterpret and misunderstand English.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpy75q2...%3DBpy75q2DDow

[Mahoro]

I fail to understand how wanting to get an item for a 10 hour battle with Yumcax which is actually worth my time is wanting the game to be effortless or easy, its wanting it to be fun and not pissing me off. A few nights ago I spent probably 6 hours out at a WK Reive for Yumcax, I spent long enough out there that we kept wiping and getting back up only to wipe again, we failed to hurt it because of its regen. After 6 hours enough people came that we could fight it without wiping, it took about a hour from that point before we got the NM to 90% HP, we slowly fought it from that point till death, the overall battle took over 12 hours from when I entered till we killed it, it took 12 hours, the item I walked away with was literally an Arrowwood Log, a Log worth an amazing 5 gil to an NPC, 1k on the AH. My 12+ hours of standing in that zone, waiting, watching, and wiping, all of my xp loss, messed up sleeping schedule, all for this log. The only item I have from Yumcax is the Neck, that's it, I was lucky enough to reroll it again, and got nothing. Forgive me if I think that is stupid and wrong, and if I think it is flat out retarded for SE to expect a player base to put up with this kind of horrible design.

To me, the larger problem here is that Yorcia Weald reiving is still having issues, thereby contributing to the 5-10 hr marathon sessions. I really wish they'd change that map, and perhaps add a Reive or two. Because as long as the Colonization Rate holds level, there will be a vicious cycle of longer fights and greater expectations in rewards. I think the quality of non-gear rewards should be higher too. With VW, we didn't mind (as much) because we could spam the mob back to back and have 6 shots at the lottery in an hour or two.