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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    5-6 players, to be more specific 3 DDs, and 2-3 pullers (BRDs, CORs, and/or THFs). It's the fact my party doesn't gear swap into stupid setups. I'm guessing you have or rather prefer DDs who sit in PDT sets where as I'd much rather they full time the optimal TP and WS sets when we're just talking about fracture plasm farming.
    Seriously we could be debating over this all day. How did i ever imply that DD would sit idle in -Pdt gear?

    And in my opinion Plasm farming doesnt require you to be massively geared for this with 50% potency unless you are doing something bigger. Theres several ways to be efficient in mp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Actually a WHM is just as much if not more MP efficient when they are focusing on cures at least when done properly.
    Ok agreed, if done properly. Just the same as Scholar. Although between mystic boon from WHM and hvelgamir for SCH people can benefit using hvelgamir because you dont need to attack monster to gain MP back. While as scholar can gain it back from far away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Actually Genbu's shield is simply left alone because there are issues with gear swaping via macros that gets weird with sub slot. The only reason I have Genbu is for it's augmented Cure potency and -cure casting time. The PDT is irrelevant to me as I have a PDT set as well though that doesn't see the light of day much because well I'm rarely stupid about my curing reducing the chance of me pulling hate in the beginning of fights.
    Yeah but I carry it in case you have parties that don't work out well where everyone starts dying and sooner or later boss will turn to you...


    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    In a good group all 3 DDs are sharing the tanking duty not just 1-2 DDs. Regen V is awesome except when the monster pulls off a TP move that ends up doing 1k damage. While that DD may live long enough to have a few regen ticks heal him up I sure won't be finding out because I'll be tossing a cure to ensure cure + regen keeps him alive.
    And does it not make sense for a DD to be carrying -PDT gear to switch over after using TP move? and in that case WHM casting flash to blind it during TP move would not severely lower accuracy doesnt make a difference? Yet if you had phalanx up or even lets say you also kept up stoneskin, im not seeing how a DD can take in 1k damage unless you are fighting a boss which in this case you are talking about Delve plasm farming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Not having to depend on Rapture has always been my goal, that leaves my statagems for buffs and aoe debuff removal, or a pinch aoe cure.
    I never said i depend on Rapture, but i did said that its there in case you need it, i mean thats why we have the ability no?


    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    They're busy pulling because that allows the DDs to focus on killing as fast as possible and I am more than able to focus on curing without the need of supports tossing in cures. Helpful but I definitely don't depend on it.
    Well im not busy curing all the time, Im actually more busy keeping TP regain, Phalanx, Storms, Enspells, Haste and Shell/Protect when needed. Occassionally raising bard if he/she gets too happy on pulling several mobs or doesnt carry -pdt gear while doing it.

    And i dont need others to help me either, but I did point out that in case you need it, other jobs have the ability to cure too. No player is meant to be a 1 man show. I mean thats the point in having team work? Or we all suppose to be solo mode for every occassion?


    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    I use convert assuming I even need it, Sublimation + refresh gear I swap back into after casts are often more than enough. If I get low on MP then I still have convert to fall back on which doesn't lock my main/sub slots. It doesn't require another inventory space taken up by a Dusty Wing.
    I barely use convert, and most runs I never use it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Never said I needed the weapon slot for my enhancing set, though for most people Kirin's Pole augmented is easier to acquire than other options.
    Ok if you do not need it for that, then i am assuming you need it for magian staff cure potency?


    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    I don't need to depend on Tabua Rasa for Embrava or Stratagems. I'd wager because my "overgearing" allows me the comfort of not ever having to look at them as pinch solutions. Though I do agree they still count as that well assuming you have the MP to cover the costs.
    I dont depend on Tabula Rasa for Embrava either, I just said that if you really need it, its Regen stacked with Regen V makes a difference.
    And when I see that our team covers alot of mobs, Why not just use it so they can kill stuff faster benefiting from Haste so you can only focus on enhancing spell buffs instead of healing when Regen V and embrava up can make your job easier?


    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Maybe not having 50% is acceptable to you though to be frank I bet if you aimed for 50% you'd find you need the MP from Myrkr and Vile Elixir/+1 would go down.
    Well we are talking about delve plasm farming correct? I never need to use Vile Elixer, however again I carry it in case its emergency.

    Question though: Are you depending on bards and corsair to help you keep mp up?
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-03-2013 at 03:14 AM.