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  1. #151
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    Purposely curing with less than 50% cure potency is gimping yourself. Purposely not idling in easily available refresh gear is gimping yourself. Casting pretty much any spell while having Hvergelmir equipped, is gimping yourself.

    It's not about using other gearpieces to "make up" for the benefits from a Chatoyant Staff either. It's about adding those benefits from the other gearpieces and the staff - and that's any staff/weapon really, all depending on what you are casting - further enhancing the effect of the spell you cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    Purposely curing with less than 50% cure potency is gimping yourself. Purposely not idling in easily available refresh gear is gimping yourself. Casting pretty much any spell while having Hvergelmir equipped, is gimping yourself.

    It's not about using other gearpieces to "make up" for the benefits from a Chatoyant Staff either. It's about adding those benefits from the other gearpieces and the staff - and that's any staff/weapon really, all depending on what you are casting - further enhancing the effect of the spell you cast.
    I think OP is an Abyssea kid, he won't understand or believe us no matter how hard we try to explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Less about Abyssea, more trying to justify Hvergelmir.

    It's a bad Empyrean the same way trying to justify Claustrum and Gates of Tartarus' aftermath is bad. For all the hand wringing you have to do to make it barely workable you could have done better with easier to acquire gear. But hey, if you want to do your own thing, feel free to.
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    Sparthosx - Lakshmi - 90 BLU BRD SAM COR RNG DNC PUP BST WAR WHM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Less about Abyssea, more trying to justify Hvergelmir.

    It's a bad Empyrean the same way trying to justify Claustrum and Gates of Tartarus' aftermath is bad. For all the hand wringing you have to do to make it barely workable you could have done better with easier to acquire gear. But hey, if you want to do your own thing, feel free to.
    HEY! How dare you speak ill of Claustrum! It's an epic weapon!....ok, I couldn't keep a straight face... Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Less about Abyssea, more trying to justify Hvergelmir.

    It's a bad Empyrean the same way trying to justify Claustrum and Gates of Tartarus' aftermath is bad. For all the hand wringing you have to do to make it barely workable you could have done better with easier to acquire gear. But hey, if you want to do your own thing, feel free to.
    Isn't that the whole point? the challenge....
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    No macro challenge!
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    Sparthosx - Lakshmi - 90 BLU BRD SAM COR RNG DNC PUP BST WAR WHM
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umichi View Post
    Isn't that the whole point? the challenge....
    But think about how much better you'd be with the gear to make Claust/Hnnnngrmir work, but with Chatoyant or the TotM staves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Regen V, Haste, keep up with removing debuffs, Bar spells if relevant, Phalanxga, Stoneskinga if it actually is a benefit over a waste of a stratagem. All on top of curing. Also the occasional sleeps to help pullers if applicable.
    What are you doing? Healing all 3 alliances? Or your party isn't geared well enough that they are taking up too much damage?
    I do the same things you are doing. But lets figure this out because to me it sounds like you are overgearing.

    I can understand WHM needing Cure potency 50% because the job uses MP constantly healing. And cannot recover MP the same as Scholar which is also why I can understand WHM using high Refresh Idle Set.

    And yes I understand Genbu has -PDT on top of cure potency aug stats but Terra staff offers higher -PDT.

    However...

    WHM & SCH are 2 different jobs.

    Scholar Regen V alone saves you MP because you do not need to constantly heal several members in your group.
    We know that usually 1 or 2 DD most likely holds hate be it tanker or highest damage dealing job.

    So if anything you should be spending a lot of MP on those jobs compared to the other DD in your party.

    Which is what Regen V well makes up for it.

    Phalanx can help members reduce damage which compliments Regen. As do Stoneskin but I only use this rarely when necessary. Because of the limitations of Strategems.

    Hekas Kilasiris gives you 15% Cure potency. And if you are really desperate to heal someone that bad then that's what Rapture is for.

    The strategy of using Regen V is also watching players in your party. If someone took a hit on rare occasions obviously you don't need to cure them, just wait for Regen V to handle that.

    Remember you most likely have other support jobs who can help toss in a cure here and there so if team work plays out good you shouldn't be so heavily focused on curing but also keep buffs up on players.

    I always keep Hvelgamir and Vivid grip strap on for its fast cast.

    As I said before you have Sublimation which mine is fully merited. And because Sublimation gives you immunity to spells like sleep. This alone can help you keep MP up decently. I almost rarely use Convert as I use Myrkr instead.

    By the time your MP falls to low level depending on the pace of your party, then TP from Adloquium should be high enough to use Myrkr. At above 200+ TP you gain about 500+ MP back which Sublimation is on countdown.

    If you have 300% you can gain 900-1k MP back

    And the benefit of Myrkr is that you can engage battle from far away to use it in between wait time for mobs to repop as long as you can find 1 monster.

    Again Icarus wing and Vile Elixer you carry in case of emergency and if you have WHM in party Ask your WHM to devotion you.

    Enhancing set and enhancement pieces are there for you to switch over for buffs.. Which you don't really need staff for that.

    And we know you are not going to constantly use Embrava because its only active during TR.. Therefore you don't need to worry about switching staves unless its for that reason.

    In case You desperately need help healing HP to your party that's what Embrava is for also. 1 hours are there for emergencies.. Regen V and Regen off Embrava is very powerful. But you need to keep SCH AF3 Hat on when using Regen spells.

    If you really want cure potency there are other gears for that but again it doesn't mean SCH needs to have 50% Cure potency...

    Just like DD have to make choices on what sacrifice they need to make to use certain pieces...I choose to sacrifice Cure Potency for MP especially if I can gain 1k back with EMP staff.

    Oh yeah I didn't even mention that Cor and Bard could refresh you if you cannot rely on yourself independently to do it.

    Remember abilities such as Rapture, Penury are there for a reason. And If your team is going too fast... I'm sure they won't kind taking a few seconds to let you recover as you are doing a lot to help them.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-03-2013 at 01:59 AM.

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    Mama-se, mama-sa, mama-coo-sa~

    OP just gotta be startin' somethin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Less about Abyssea, more trying to justify Hvergelmir.

    It's a bad Empyrean the same way trying to justify Claustrum and Gates of Tartarus' aftermath is bad. For all the hand wringing you have to do to make it barely workable you could have done better with easier to acquire gear. But hey, if you want to do your own thing, feel free to.
    No you just can't accept the fact that there are different ways to using gear and strategy. Not everyone is a robot.
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