Your actions are making the entire FFXI community suffer

[Zagen]

What are doing? Healing all 3 alliances? Or your party isn't geared well enough that they are taking up too much damage?

5-6 players, to be more specific 3 DDs, and 2-3 pullers (BRDs, CORs, and/or THFs). It's the fact my party doesn't gear swap into stupid setups. I'm guessing you have or rather prefer DDs who sit in PDT sets where as I'd much rather they full time the optimal TP and WS sets when we're just talking about fracture plasm farming.

I can understand WHM needing Cure potency 50% because the job uses MP constantly healing. And cannot recover MP the same as Scholar which is also why I can understand WHM using high Refresh Idle Set.

Actually a WHM is just as much if not more MP efficient when they are focusing on cures at least when done properly.

And yes I understand Genbu has -PDT but Terra staff offers higher.

Actually Genbu's shield is simply left alone because there are issues with gear swaping via macros that gets weird with sub slot. The only reason I have Genbu is for it's augmented Cure potency and -cure casting time. The PDT is irrelevant to me as I have a PDT set as well though that doesn't see the light of day much because well I'm rarely stupid about my curing reducing the chance of me pulling hate in the beginning of fights.

Scholar Regen V alone saves you MP because you do not need to constantly heal several members in your group.
We know that usually 1 or 2 DD most likely holds hate be it tanker or highest damage dealing job.

In a good group all 3 DDs are sharing the tanking duty not just 1-2 DDs. Regen V is awesome except when the monster pulls off a TP move that ends up doing 1k damage. While that DD may live long enough to have a few regen ticks heal him up I sure won't be finding out because I'll be tossing a cure to ensure cure + regen keeps him alive.

Hekas Kilasiris gives you 15% Cure potency. And if you are really desperate to heal someone that bad then that's what Rapture is for.

Not having to depend on Rapture has always been my goal, that leaves my statagems for buffs and aoe debuff removal, or a pinch aoe cure.

Remember you most likely have other support jobs who can help toss in a cure here and there so if team work plays out good you shouldn't be so heavily focused on curing but also keep buffs up on players.

They're busy pulling because that allows the DDs to focus on killing as fast as possible and I am more than able to focus on curing without the need of supports tossing in cures. Helpful but I definitely don't depend on it.

As I said before you have Sublimation which mine is fully merited. This alone can help you keep MP up decently. I almost rarely use Convert as I use Myrkr instead.

I use convert assuming I even need it, Sublimation + refresh gear I swap back into after casts are often more than enough. If I get low on MP then I still have convert to fall back on which doesn't lock my main/sub slots. It doesn't require another inventory space taken up by a Dusty Wing.

Enhancing set and enhancement pieces are there for you to switch over for buffs.. Which you don't really need staff for that.

Never said I needed the weapon slot for my enhancing set, though for most people Kirin's Pole augmented is easier to acquire than other options.

And we know you are not going to constantly use Embrava because its only active during TR.. Therefore you don't need to worry about switching staves unless its for that reason.

In case You desperately need help healing HP to your party that's what Embrava is for also. 1 hours are there for emergencies..

I don't need to depend on Tabua Rasa for Embrava or Stratagems. I'd wager because my "overgearing" allows me the comfort of not ever having to look at them as pinch solutions. Though I do agree they still count as that well assuming you have the MP to cover the costs.

If you really want cure potency there are other gears for that but again it doesn't mean SCH needs to have 50% Cure potency...

Just like DD have to make choices on what sacrifice they need to make to use certain pieces...

Maybe not having 50% is acceptable to you though to be frank I bet if you aimed for 50% you'd find you need the MP from Myrkr and Vile Elixir/+1 would go down.

[Tamoa]

I'm honestly quite confused here, as the OP seems to be saying he (or she) is mp efficient yet he (or she) is also saying Myrkr is useful - in fact so useful that he (or she) fulltimes the staff in addition to the availability of sublimation, convert, refresh gear and even aspir, devotion, ballads and evokers.

You're curing in 15% potency only? Okay, so let's say you'd cure for 500 hp with no +potency at all. That means you'll cure for 575 hp with your 15% potency. With 50% cure potency you'll cure for 750 hp - that is a significant increase and can actually mean the difference between your cure target living or being K.O.'d.

[Karah]

I leave for a couple hours and you guys take this thread and just steamroll it into 17 freakin pages! Unbelievable.

Really, 5 pages about a Hverglmer... *headdesk*

I can't tell if this is supposed to be serious anymore, or you're genuinely this crazy, the 45 paragraph replies, aren't helping either...

[Daemon]

5-6 players, to be more specific 3 DDs, and 2-3 pullers (BRDs, CORs, and/or THFs). It's the fact my party doesn't gear swap into stupid setups. I'm guessing you have or rather prefer DDs who sit in PDT sets where as I'd much rather they full time the optimal TP and WS sets when we're just talking about fracture plasm farming.

Seriously we could be debating over this all day. How did i ever imply that DD would sit idle in -Pdt gear?

And in my opinion Plasm farming doesnt require you to be massively geared for this with 50% potency unless you are doing something bigger. Theres several ways to be efficient in mp.

Actually a WHM is just as much if not more MP efficient when they are focusing on cures at least when done properly.

Ok agreed, if done properly. Just the same as Scholar. Although between mystic boon from WHM and hvelgamir for SCH people can benefit using hvelgamir because you dont need to attack monster to gain MP back. While as scholar can gain it back from far away.

Actually Genbu's shield is simply left alone because there are issues with gear swaping via macros that gets weird with sub slot. The only reason I have Genbu is for it's augmented Cure potency and -cure casting time. The PDT is irrelevant to me as I have a PDT set as well though that doesn't see the light of day much because well I'm rarely stupid about my curing reducing the chance of me pulling hate in the beginning of fights.

Yeah but I carry it in case you have parties that don't work out well where everyone starts dying and sooner or later boss will turn to you...

In a good group all 3 DDs are sharing the tanking duty not just 1-2 DDs. Regen V is awesome except when the monster pulls off a TP move that ends up doing 1k damage. While that DD may live long enough to have a few regen ticks heal him up I sure won't be finding out because I'll be tossing a cure to ensure cure + regen keeps him alive.

And does it not make sense for a DD to be carrying -PDT gear to switch over after using TP move? and in that case WHM casting flash to blind it during TP move would not severely lower accuracy doesnt make a difference? Yet if you had phalanx up or even lets say you also kept up stoneskin, im not seeing how a DD can take in 1k damage unless you are fighting a boss which in this case you are talking about Delve plasm farming.

Not having to depend on Rapture has always been my goal, that leaves my statagems for buffs and aoe debuff removal, or a pinch aoe cure.

I never said i depend on Rapture, but i did said that its there in case you need it, i mean thats why we have the ability no?

They're busy pulling because that allows the DDs to focus on killing as fast as possible and I am more than able to focus on curing without the need of supports tossing in cures. Helpful but I definitely don't depend on it.

Well im not busy curing all the time, Im actually more busy keeping TP regain, Phalanx, Storms, Enspells, Haste and Shell/Protect when needed. Occassionally raising bard if he/she gets too happy on pulling several mobs or doesnt carry -pdt gear while doing it.

And i dont need others to help me either, but I did point out that in case you need it, other jobs have the ability to cure too. No player is meant to be a 1 man show. I mean thats the point in having team work? Or we all suppose to be solo mode for every occassion?

I use convert assuming I even need it, Sublimation + refresh gear I swap back into after casts are often more than enough. If I get low on MP then I still have convert to fall back on which doesn't lock my main/sub slots. It doesn't require another inventory space taken up by a Dusty Wing.

I barely use convert, and most runs I never use it.

Never said I needed the weapon slot for my enhancing set, though for most people Kirin's Pole augmented is easier to acquire than other options.

Ok if you do not need it for that, then i am assuming you need it for magian staff cure potency?

I don't need to depend on Tabua Rasa for Embrava or Stratagems. I'd wager because my "overgearing" allows me the comfort of not ever having to look at them as pinch solutions. Though I do agree they still count as that well assuming you have the MP to cover the costs.

I dont depend on Tabula Rasa for Embrava either, I just said that if you really need it, its Regen stacked with Regen V makes a difference.
And when I see that our team covers alot of mobs, Why not just use it so they can kill stuff faster benefiting from Haste so you can only focus on enhancing spell buffs instead of healing when Regen V and embrava up can make your job easier?

Maybe not having 50% is acceptable to you though to be frank I bet if you aimed for 50% you'd find you need the MP from Myrkr and Vile Elixir/+1 would go down.

Well we are talking about delve plasm farming correct? I never need to use Vile Elixer, however again I carry it in case its emergency.

Question though: Are you depending on bards and corsair to help you keep mp up?

[Daemon]

I'm honestly quite confused here, as the OP seems to be saying he (or she) is mp efficient yet he (or she) is also saying Myrkr is useful - in fact so useful that he (or she) fulltimes the staff in addition to the availability of sublimation, convert, refresh gear and even aspir, devotion, ballads and evokers.

You're curing in 15% potency only? Okay, so let's say you'd cure for 500 hp with no +potency at all. That means you'll cure for 575 hp with your 15% potency. With 50% cure potency you'll cure for 750 hp - that is a significant increase and can actually mean the difference between your cure target living or being K.O.'d.

Well i never said i only use Hekas 15% cure potency. And seriously im tired of you attacking me and trying to point out to everyone as if your word against mine is more superior, as if gear and strategy has to be strickly one way instead of accepting the fact that not everyone plays the job the same as you.

And you are confusing yourself by not actually reading when i said IF YOU NEED IT.

Because im not addressing my post based on answering just you. But including the abilities and options that the job has that are there in case you need it. Big difference.

[Daemon]

I leave for a couple hours and you guys take this thread and just steamroll it into 17 freakin pages! Unbelievable.

Really, 5 pages about a Hverglmer... *headdesk*

I can't tell if this is supposed to be serious anymore, or you're genuinely this crazy, the 45 paragraph replies, aren't helping either...

I know im wasting all my time trying to defend myself because people want to debate over whose build is right or wrong rather accepting the fact that you are accomplishing the same goal, not everyone plays the job the same.

[Umichi]

But think about how much better you'd be with the gear to make Claust/Hnnnngrmir work, but with Chatoyant or the TotM staves.

and live with the sorry state that most players subvert their lives to doing during a video game... bad enough i do it in real life besides that I've no interest in those objects... and i own an irridal staff of which i do use for my drg

[Connavarr]

So much stupid my brain has melted. Thanks, now I'm drooling all over the place and my girlfriend is giving me funny looks. >.>

[Tamoa]

Well i never said i only use Hekas 15% cure potency. And seriously im tired of you attacking me and trying to point out to everyone as if your word against mine is more superior, as if gear and strategy has to be strickly one way instead of accepting the fact that not everyone plays the job the same as you.

I'm trying to point out that you are purposely gimping yourself by fulltiming Hvergelmir. And by purposely not having 50% cure potency. But it's obviously falling on deaf ears.

You are the one who brought up Myrkr specifically in this thread. And if you haven't noticed already, there hasn't been a single soul agreeing with you.

[Daemon]

I'm trying to point out that you are purposely gimping yourself by fulltiming Hvergelmir. And by purposely not having 50% cure potency. But it's obviously falling on deaf ears.

You are the one who brought up Myrkr specifically in this thread. And if you haven't noticed already, there hasn't been a single soul agreeing with you.

Yeah because you still cannot accept the fact that not everyone plays the same way as you. So do i really need to have the same exact gear as you? Follow your every single strategy because thats the only way it needs to be done? But you insist to keep insulting me.

And then people wonder why i made this post in the first place. Its because rather than be open minded to the fact that no one has the same equipment and strategy you cannot expect all of us to be exactly the same.

Just like not everyone in abbysea and lower level content will show up wanting to do adoulin stuff will have the highest end game equipment.

This is why several people are suffering in game because its players like you with your mindset expect everyone else to follow your example and have a delve weapon for places that are not even relevant.

And instead of listening to other people and seeing that there are different people, different cultures and players who can do different ways to play their character, you would rather point me out on every single thing and call me wrong for it.