Geomancer and Rune Fencer Artifact Equipment

[Kincard]

I didn't use the word "stuck" in the literal "they're stuck at rank 6 because they suck" sense, but continue putting words in my mouth if you think that'll make you look better.

First, thank you for arguing my point: a level 99 doesn't need help from their alternate character to do rank 6 missions.

But secondly, a player who cared about following mission storylines would create their second character in a different city, to have a chance to play through that city's storyline without the headaches of changing their first's allegiance.

I just love how you constantly cherry pick situations where things look implausible when all I'm trying to say is that you're conflating people within group A into group B because of said cherry picking. Most people who multibox leave their boxes at rank 6 because they're not interested in seeing the same story twice. I don't know what "headache" you're talking about when you're talking about switching allegiance, it's been long since they removed both the loss of Conquest Points and Outpost Warps.

not being annoyed that Signet lasts hours longer on one than the other.

Most people don't play for over 7 hours straight, which is the minimum amount your Signet Lasts when you're rank 6.

Because Dynamis currency is such a big money-maker these days?

Still makin' 1.5~2 mil a day off Dynamis Currency here. Well, assuming I'd sell it. That's off bills, and assuming I sell them all for 5k each (They're going back up since SE mentioned how they're going to un-suck RMEs). I assume RMTs do ADL by now.

Yes, and they too would likely be level 99 and parked at rank 6, for the very reason I stated: they just don't care.

And of those players you know who exhibit that behavior, how many of them bothered with artifact equipment, rather than skipping right on through to gear they can purchase with cruor in Visions of Abyssea?

Actually, plenty of said players get Artifact Gear simply because it looks cool. They couldn't care less about the story. Some of them like having stuff done and don't care much about the story at all- they're just looking to have fun doing battlefields and stuff.

I'm taking issue with your attitude that's basically "man, those people with great gear that only care about grinding sure don't care about story like all us high-class people that take our time reading do!" If you want complain about them making an event inaccessible to people with limited playtime talk about that instead of spouting so much nonsense.

So the people who can hold their own in Skirmish aren't able to solo 4 Jack Cardians?

Cherry picking again I see. I'm sure you were one of the few people that was good enough to solo Lilith Ascendant but that's still excluding a great majority of the playerbase, including the people you're arguing for that probably have very few jobs leveled and don't have the resources to solo said missions.

(or even dualboxed, in your scenario)

wtf are you even talking about, I think you're getting confused. If your whole stance is that story content should be do-able solo then any example of a mission where you almost always need more than one person disproves what you're getting so worked up about.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Most people who multibox leave their boxes at rank 6 because they're not interested in seeing the same story twice. I don't know what "headache" you're talking about when you're talking about switching allegiance

It still takes more effort than simply picking a different allegiance for a second character you're making anyway. Even if you choose an allegiance at random, that's still a 2/3 chance of picking one different from your first. And if they're truly that averse to "seeing the same story twice," rank 6 is exactly the wrong place to stop, as rank 6 is where the three nations truly start to diverge.

And even if they do pick the same allegiance for their second character, why would you make a second character and then not use it to help complete your first's missions?

Most people don't play for over 7 hours straight

The clock on Signet/etc. stops when you log off. Someone who plays only an hour a day will still notice the great disparity in Signet duration.

Still makin' 1.5~2 mil a day off Dynamis Currency here. Well, assuming I'd sell it. That's off bills, and assuming I sell them all for 5k each (They're going back up since SE mentioned how they're going to un-suck RMEs).

Pet jobs can make similar (if not better) money off of drops from Walk of Echoes, which has far less of a mission prerequisite to participate in. And that's assuming that they're not just flat-out selling power-leveling services for gil. Dynamis is not the optimal gil-making event it once was.

Cherry picking again I see.

It's not "cherry-picking," it's "staying on topic." The subject at hand is rank 6. The only place (and the only need) to fight four Jack Cardians is a Windurst rank 6 mission. After that, there's four level ~60 Yagudo, a hike up Castle Oztroja, and then you stop showing up in the results of "/sea all rank 6."

There are exactly six (6) rank 6 missions in FFXI (and no, "Lilith Ascendant" is not one of them). Name one of them that a level 99 character can't solo. Any job (or lack thereof), any gear (or lack thereof).

wtf are you even talking about

I pointed out to what I feel to be compelling evidence that a sizable portion of players are interested in endgame content to the exclusion of storyline/content. You tried to argue that what I was actually seeing was strong evidence of rampant dualboxing. If someone is interested in reaching San d'Oria rank 7 or beyond, having a second character to share 1000 Needles with will make the first of their two rank 6 missions that much less intimidating.

One moment, you're arguing that rank 7+ can be soloed, so that there's no reason to bring a second character through those same missions. Then you turn around and say it can't be soloed, in which case the second character would need to progress through the same high ranks just to have access to the battlefield for (e.g.) "Saintly Invitation."