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    Player Kincard's Avatar
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    Kincard
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    Leviathan
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    NIN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Kincaid decided to try to make a personal attack while also implying that the number of players who only care about endgame swag and ignore cutscenes was really insignificant.
    Go back and read your original comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    However, the kinds of players who enjoy such stories and the kinds of players who would jump through whatever hoops will be necessary for "level 105" gear are generally mutually exclusive.
    And you once again make that same mistake in this same post saying:

    having JSE start at 99 sounds like S-E combining the worst of both worlds, namely keeping storyline out-of-reach to those more likely to be interested in it, while accessible to those more likely to skip through it
    If you're going to say something like that then expect people to point out why that's completely illogical. The only thing you can prove by listing a bunch of people at rank 6 is that said characters exist (And yes, intuitively there's likely plenty of players that don't care about the story), and not that there's no overlap between people who enjoy getting gear and people who enjoy the story.

    Finding characters that are stuck at rank 6 also doesn't prove anything when two-boxing is such a regular thing in the game now. They could also be RMT. There's any number of reasons a character might be rank 6 but you're making a mistake conflating them all with people that don't give a shit about the story. There's also plenty of players that don't have REMs or Top-End Gear that spam enter through their cutscenes (I know a couple of them myself).

    FYI, ilevel 105 implies something about as hard as Skirmish (Refer here). People have beaten Skirmish with like 3 people. Just from that it implies this isn't going to be that hard, especially if you catch the initial wave of people getting their AF. Failing that, are you saying it's that hard to find 3 or 4 people (Which is about what is required to beat Skirmish) to do such a quest? If they were making it so that you had to defeat Taxet to obtain your new storyline armor I'd be complaining alongside you, but absolutely nothing they said implied this was going to be one of those cases. The main storyline missions from almost all the expansions still require more than one person to complete (Depending on your job), as well.

    If you still insist on complaining about the fact you need to find 2 or 3 friends to do your AF quests I won't argue with you because I can understand people complaining about not having enough time for group play, but my initial post was to point out how it makes no sense for you to assume that people who like cool gear don't like the storyline and little to do with whether or not I care if they make the quest soloable or not.
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    Last edited by Kincard; 06-06-2013 at 10:09 PM.