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  1. #341
    Player Nebo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    Everyone complains about content being to easy today. Yet the moment content is put into effect that is a challenge, they just complain about it being to hard. And they wonder why ppl don't take them seriosuly...
    This content is not an actual challenge. It is inflated with artificial difficulty, luck based bullsh*t and instant "I WIN" AOE death rape moves.

    This is not challenging, balanced, engaging content with various opportunities to form strategy. This is terrible (and lazy) design.

    For as much as the word "balance" spews out of their every sentence, this developement team has ZERO concept of what it actually means...or how to bring it to FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    Facepalming so hard at the amount of bitching, whining and crying going on in here. When was there not content in this game that required people not to suck if they wanted to beat it?
    We're talking about things like Neo-Nyzul and Legion here, dear. You have to do a lot more than simply "not suck" if you want to win at those. Come back when you're ready to discuss the topic at hand instead of whatever it is you're going on about.
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    getting too old for this s***
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    We're talking about things like Neo-Nyzul and Legion here, dear. You have to do a lot more than simply "not suck" if you want to win at those. Come back when you're ready to discuss the topic at hand instead of whatever it is you're going on about.
    I know you're talking about Neo-Nyzul and Legion. Neo-Nyzul is largely luck-dependant more than anything, and then it doesn't matter much if you suck or not. But if you suck you're still likely to lose even without order lamp floors and with good floor jumps. Will it be harder after Embrava nerf? Yes. Will it be doable? Yes.

    Legion halls have already been cleared by several groups without Embrava and PD. But that requires you not to suck, plain and simple.

    I'm not saying SE's more recent event designs are perfect, because they aren't. What I was saying though, is that the amount of whining on this forum in general is quite astounding in my eyes. It leaves me with the impression that way too many people are of the opinion that "oh I can't do this event because <insertreasonhere>, therefore it is too hard and should be dumbed down".

    I don't like the proposed nerfs to Embrava and PD, especially Embrava. It's a huge let down for all scholars out there. Maybe it needed some adjustment, but instead it's being made next to useless, and I wish SE could see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  5. #345
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    To be honest, is it that hard for you to get 2 SCH's with a pimped out Stun-set? Hell, even get a third, if you're scared that you'll have issues. I'm sorry to say, Camiie-dear, but if you want to do the newest and most challanging content in-game, you need to have the most competitive gear and setup to match said content.
    Spending ~3mil on flame geodes and calling it a day just won't cut it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    To be honest, is it that hard for you to get 2 SCH's with a pimped out Stun-set? Hell, even get a third, if you're scared that you'll have issues. I'm sorry to say, Camiie-dear, but if you want to do the newest and most challanging content in-game, you need to have the most competitive gear and setup to match said content.
    Spending ~3mil on flame geodes and calling it a day just won't cut it.
    Flame geodes? Really? You obviously don't know me, and I'm not going to waste time enlightening you. Basically what you're saying is I need to get Neo-Nyzul 100 gear in order to get Neo-Nyzul 100 gear. I need to get Legion gear in order to get Legion gear. I need the most competitive gear to do the most competitive content right? I assume you can see the catch-22 there? I hope someone can, because I don't think SE sees it at all.
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  7. #347
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    Legion halls have already been cleared by several groups without Embrava and PD. But that requires you not to suck, plain and simple.
    Very funny how you think stun locking= skill. What's the difference between this and PD already ? I suppose this is the awesome strategy SE is talking about. At the end of the day a single SCH with capped skill and a thunder mac staff (hi2you retaded easy to get gear) plus everyone else in fullAF3+2 + level 90 empy is going to clear legion. SE is wrong in every aspect. We can discuss a lot on what gear is needed to beat legon currently (and SE seems to think legion is the hardest, becaus ehey they are big bad boys [except they are not since you use stun or PD]), but we cannot excatly claim that a level 95 relic + full AF3+2 is something unreacheable to 99.99% of the ppl that don't touch legion. I'm going to reveal you the truth on legion that I mentionned the next day after it was released :

    * legion is a trap to catch pseudo elitist players formerly from HNMs ( the same that systematically claimed that the last tier VW mobs were not beatable by gimps), where 99% of the gear is subpar or extremly unlikely to get (HQ abjuration with max augment say), and even then if you have it not many don't suck.
    * the real goal of legion is to provide servers with material for crafters to reach 110 skill, which they admitted in a recent post. Its secondary goal is to allow WHMs all over the server and BLM to get arise/meteor for cheap.

    They were dumb enough to let the (imo) only good piece from legion be sold at the AH (aka duplus grip) for cheap.

    Legion "elitism" is your carrot, thanks for providing us all with arise !

    It's sad that embrava and PD nerf is going to make you less likely to clear it. I can already hear the myhtic owners crying that they can no longer start @ 300 TP and drk being unable to souleater. Up to now I'm about correct in my predicitions and I'm going to reveal you a secret (not so secret as everyone experienced with the game will guess it) : people will stop crafting because the few good gear crafted will be beaten by salvage/new meeble gear , and because less people will do legion.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 11-17-2012 at 11:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Very funny how you think stun locking= skill.
    The difference between PD/Embrava and a Stun Lock?

    Any Fresh 99 Abyssea-Burned Player can do PD/Embrava (The actions, as in a SCH or SMN), But try getting some tard to Time a Stun... It ain't going to happen. Now, Embrava would actually require said SCH working on 3-4 Pieces of gear, But still requires little to no mental capacity.

    Stunning actually requires Timing, I mean, Legitimately anyway... paying attention, etc. Plus, Stun Locking leads a higher risk. both strategies are really just mindless zergs, But thats what Legion was designed to be, a Huge zerg fest. Its not too bad.

    Thats the only difference i can think of.
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  9. #349
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Here's a long irrelevant hyperbole where I tell the world it's my "$12.99"
    Just this...

    Relics and Empys...
    I didn't know they dropped in Legion.

    Also, I didn't mention NNI for being a pre-req to Legion...
    Have a talented and well-geared group of 18~36 people who know the event and communicate well together with Stunners, isn't dropped in NNI.

    It's sad that you can't stay relevant and have to baw everywhere you go.
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    Last edited by Plasticleg; 11-17-2012 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Stunning actually requires Timing, I mean, Legitimately anyway... paying attention, etc. Plus, Stun Locking leads a higher risk. both strategies are really just mindless zergs, But thats what Legion was designed to be, a Huge zerg fest. Its not too bad.

    Thats the only difference i can think of.
    Unfortunately, as a stunner, your ISP can screw you over ><

    Bad connection = bad stunner.
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