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    Player revear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I have no idea what you're trying to say. Current events are not easy without Embrava or PD, some may even border on impossible (Nyzul Uncharted for example). That video kinda proves that things were not ok. If no one else could kill it, as you so arrogantly claim, despite being out for years, it's not well designed content. PW and AV were shitty back in the day, if you compare that to current content you're calling it shitty as well.

    It was tolerable with AV and PW, because they were niche cases. You could still get most of the good gear without doing them. It's different now, as everything good since Voidwatch was in Nyzul Uncharted, Legion, Einherjar, and now Meeble Burrows. It's as if every good piece of gear back in the day dropped off AV, and no one could clear it. That's bad content right there.
    so you are saying nidhogg khim tia ixion sandworm aspid KB never had any good drops to then?
    no offense but that was my best time in 11 killing shit and dominating the server and obtaining the rare items,
    my question to u arcon where were u? at these times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    oh you.


    Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?
    Wait, hold on a second. Fights right now with PD/Embrava are boring as hell, when were they ever interesting or challenging? The two spells by themselves are p. rad, but with them in use all the time and new content forcing it with instant KO moves, most jobs have no place in a group. Why bring a WHM when you can just have a SCH and SMN team buff up, maybe toss a Regen here and there and laugh all the way to the bank?

    I'm a little pissed that I've spent so much time and energy gearing and skilling my WHM just to be sidelined by literally every group in favor of a SCH because of ONE spell. That goes without mentioning how pointless it is for me to bother with status heals in most boss fights because of status auras, my job has pretty much been retired by design.
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  3. #23
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    Come on, if a person abused the features then post negative stuff after collecting the rewards it does sound a little hypocritical to me.
    It's Pchan, what did you expect? He is an arrogant hypocrite, everyone knows that. But he was spot on with his complaint. People need to stop looking at who said it and instead look at what's being said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?
    Were you around at any point during the 8 years before Abyssea? There was multitude of endgame content (everything but AV and PW) that was challenging but beatable without exploiting game mechanics like that. Things involving hate control, crowd control, physical/magical damage phases, melees timing their battle phases, tanks and backup tanks, positioning, kiting, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by revear View Post
    so you are saying nidhogg khim tia ixion sandworm aspid KB never had any good drops to then?
    No, I said exactly the opposite. Read my post again and try to understand it this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    oh you.


    Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?
    how about by starting: let VIT/Def gear matter
    fixing the enmity for a real tank
    by letting m.acc magian trial staffs actually matter in debuffs.
    by letting debuffs actually matter!
    by haveing only 1 dangerous move that is stunnable tough
    by limiting AoE moves of mobs to 15' so mages dont get one shot because they stand a tad too close doing their job
    list goes on.
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    Player Kriegsgott's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    how about by starting: let VIT/Def gear matter
    fixing the enmity for a real tank
    by letting m.acc magian trial staffs actually matter in debuffs.
    by letting debuffs actually matter!
    by haveing only 1 dangerous move that is stunnable tough
    by limiting AoE moves of mobs to 15' so mages dont get one shot because they stand a tad too close doing their job
    list goes on.
    complete the list i like the most stuff you posted and 100% agree !
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    Quote Originally Posted by revear View Post
    so you are saying nidhogg khim tia ixion sandworm aspid KB never had any good drops to then?
    no offense but that was my best time in 11 killing shit and dominating the server and obtaining the rare items,
    my question to u arcon where were u? at these times
    Dominating the server when Ixion, sandworm, KB, khimaira were garbage ? Not sure what this has to do with the discussion anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kriegsgott View Post
    did you buy all your Umbral Marrow's or got them with the didn very liked PD part ?
    translation please

    fix your head plz there is something wrong
    Inbefore nyzlulz.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 10-22-2012 at 02:02 AM.

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    The only thing that you have to get hit by is either Oblivion Smash x2 or Violent Rupture x2 when it splits. SMN can generally survive either with Stoneskin and PDT gear.

    Also I have killed ADL without PD.
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    You have killed it in your dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    You have killed it in your dreams.
    Oh god, not again this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    They didn't do it or you would have seen it done in a video
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    You have killed it in your dreams.
    ..........
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