Perfect defense / embrava unbalance

[Raksha]

Here is an example of why embrava broke the game ; ADL is not killable without perfect defense

oh you.


Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?

[Caketime]

oh you.


Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?

Wait, hold on a second. Fights right now with PD/Embrava are boring as hell, when were they ever interesting or challenging? The two spells by themselves are p. rad, but with them in use all the time and new content forcing it with instant KO moves, most jobs have no place in a group. Why bring a WHM when you can just have a SCH and SMN team buff up, maybe toss a Regen here and there and laugh all the way to the bank?

I'm a little pissed that I've spent so much time and energy gearing and skilling my WHM just to be sidelined by literally every group in favor of a SCH because of ONE spell. That goes without mentioning how pointless it is for me to bother with status heals in most boss fights because of status auras, my job has pretty much been retired by design.

[Arcon]

Come on, if a person abused the features then post negative stuff after collecting the rewards it does sound a little hypocritical to me.

It's Pchan, what did you expect? He is an arrogant hypocrite, everyone knows that. But he was spot on with his complaint. People need to stop looking at who said it and instead look at what's being said.

Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?

Were you around at any point during the 8 years before Abyssea? There was multitude of endgame content (everything but AV and PW) that was challenging but beatable without exploiting game mechanics like that. Things involving hate control, crowd control, physical/magical damage phases, melees timing their battle phases, tanks and backup tanks, positioning, kiting, etc.

so you are saying nidhogg khim tia ixion sandworm aspid KB never had any good drops to then?

No, I said exactly the opposite. Read my post again and try to understand it this time.

[Raksha]

Were you around at any point during the 8 years before Abyssea? There was multitude of endgame content (everything but AV and PW) that was challenging but beatable without exploiting game mechanics like that. Things involving hate control, crowd control, physical/magical damage phases, melees timing their battle phases, tanks and backup tanks, positioning, kiting, etc.

Sure I was around back then, but I'm talking about new stuff, not just rehashing old stuff (as fun as it was).

[Sarick]

It's Pchan, what did you expect? He is an arrogant hypocrite, everyone knows that. But he was spot on with his complaint. People need to stop looking at who said it and instead look at what's being said.

I said this >>

I do think that these abilities are being overused because their effectiveness however, I see other issues with the original post that make it inapt.

Did you even read my full post? I didn't ninja edit anything extra in, if you look a post later you can see someone quoted me. Outside the removal of the word "of" nothing has changed.

I'm spot on already. Question is, why are you trying to preach this to me after I already explained everything?

[Damane]

oh you.


Do people have any suggestions as to how SE could make fights challenging/interesting without requiring PD/embrava?

how about by starting: let VIT/Def gear matter
fixing the enmity for a real tank
by letting m.acc magian trial staffs actually matter in debuffs.
by letting debuffs actually matter!
by haveing only 1 dangerous move that is stunnable tough
by limiting AoE moves of mobs to 15' so mages dont get one shot because they stand a tad too close doing their job
list goes on.

[Kriegsgott]

how about by starting: let VIT/Def gear matter
fixing the enmity for a real tank
by letting m.acc magian trial staffs actually matter in debuffs.
by letting debuffs actually matter!
by haveing only 1 dangerous move that is stunnable tough
by limiting AoE moves of mobs to 15' so mages dont get one shot because they stand a tad too close doing their job
list goes on.

complete the list i like the most stuff you posted and 100% agree !