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[scaevola]

An event should not be kept alive because it has terrible drop rates, it should be kept alive because it has rewards worth doing it for while still being a rewarding event.

We aren't talking about whether you could do voidwatch at all, we're talking about whether you could do any voidwatch other than qilin.

Example, Abyssea is still done by people, why?

supergrindy empyrean weapons, and the fact that you need to redo the AF3+2 grind every time you want to level a new job

also we like money

right?

The reason is simple, its because the content had rewards worth doing it for and at the same time gave them to you without you having to bang your head against the wall for days to get them.

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An easy fix to VW for example, put plates on NMs with R/EX drops past T3 Jeuno & T1 Aht/Tav, T3 Jeuno gets plates both in HQ & NQ slots as to give it a higher drop rate. Add pouches to Ig-Alima & Rex or raise Cinder/Dross drop rates.

ok aces but this has anything to do with the actual gear drop rates (which is what everybody was actually talking about) because ______

Increase all drop rates on all R/EX gear by 50~100%(not meaning to 50~100%, but by that much, meaning at most double of current)except for items with glows, their drop rate is put to 3~5% as currently they seem much to low(especially the weapon drops)and with that I think VW would continue for a while thanks to plate drops & cinder/dross drops. That or go look at my point idea, which would work just as well.

i got a ganesha's mala a couple months ago

guess how much i want to join hahava shouts to help other people get ganesha's mala

guess how much that would change if i'd gotten the mala on the first kill rather than the 50th

[Demon6324236]

We aren't talking about whether you could do voidwatch at all, we're talking about whether you could do any voidwatch other than qilin.

Ill come back to this in a minute.

supergrindy empyrean weapons, and the fact that you need to redo the AF3+2 grind every time you want to level a new job

also we like money

right?

Like I said, rewards you don't have to bang your head against the wall to get. Emps & AF3+2 both have decent drop rates, and though they may be grindy it isn't as bad because you always get something for your trouble with Emps, and +2s have a high drop rate with TH or proc, and very high with both, not to mention each +2 has a NM which drops 1 100% of the time, and up to 3 total. I think this is why people like Abyssea, you got something when you tried, there was not alot of cock-blocking random drops to get in the way of what you were after. You simply needed to work on something to obtain it, rather than VW where you fight hundreds of times with no progress toward your rewards at all, you have the same chance after 100 fights, as someone who is just fighting the NM their 1st time.

ok aces but this has anything to do with the actual gear drop rates (which is what everybody was actually talking about) because ______

Again, Ill come back to this in just a second.

i got a ganesha's mala a couple months ago

guess how much i want to join hahava shouts to help other people get ganesha's mala

guess how much that would change if i'd gotten the mala on the first kill rather than the 50th

Ok now all of the things I put off in 1 shot. By adding plate drops to NMs with R/EX gear drops such as Hahava would give you just such a reason to redo that NM. As you said, you have no incentive to do Hahava right now, thats because there are no rewards you can really get from it, however if they added plates, or something worth money besides a pulse cell you have nearly no chance of getting, you would probably think about doing it.

Qilin is spammed because its a easy ass NM which has a potential for good money/plate drops. Were they to give drops to other NMs, you also may see a wider verity. As for right now the only Kaggen, Akvan, Pil, & Qilin, are really spammed, because of Plates & Bodies. The main reason for Kaggen, Akvan, and Pil are gear, however they normally seem to fill nicely, this is because the single plate drops, while not being the best, are still good rewards, and are worth the time to join.

All in all it would help overall for a good reason. Making drop rates higher or adding drops to make the parties easier to gather, both are good solutions because of 1 main reason. Parties would get members quicker, meaning more time you can fight the NM, and less time spent shouting. The 2nd reason is everyone has a chance at these other rewards, such as plates. If you are spamming Lancing Lamorak for instance, everyone is getting plates, which means more people are likely to join, and you yourself are getting plates even when not getting your Athos Boots, everyone wins, parties fill faster, and you will get your gear sooner, and easier.

[scaevola]

Emps & AF3+2 both have decent drop rates, and though they may be grindy it isn't as bad because you always get something for your trouble with Emps, and +2s have a high drop rate with TH or proc, and very high with both, not to mention each +2 has a NM which drops 1 100% of the time, and up to 3 total. I think this is why people like Abyssea, you got something when you tried, there was not alot of cock-blocking random drops to get in the way of what you were after. You simply needed to work on something to obtain it, rather than VW where you fight hundreds of times with no progress toward your rewards at all, you have the same chance after 100 fights, as someone who is just fighting the NM their 1st time.

No, you missed the point. If I decide to play, say, DRG tomorrow, I will go back to Abyssea to make AF3+2 despite not having spent any meaningful time in there for months. It has nothing to do with how easy it is to actually get that AF3+2, and everything to do with the AF3+2 I've already made contributing nothing to my DRG beyond putatively helping me get more of it.

Ok now all of the things I put off in 1 shot. By adding plate drops to NMs with R/EX gear drops such as Hahava would give you just such a reason to redo that NM. As you said, you have no incentive to do Hahava right now, thats because there are no rewards you can really get from it, however if they added plates, or something worth money besides a pulse cell you have nearly no chance of getting, you would probably think about doing it.

No. Because I have limited stones, I will keep going to Qilin, Ig-Alima/Botulus, or any other VWNM from which I actually need drops (which, in my case, is basically just Lancing Lamorak). You will need to put pouches on every single VWNM for that to work, and all that will do is crash the price of plates to the point where nobody's going to bother using rubicund at all.

Qilin is spammed because its a easy ass NM which has a potential for good money/plate drops. Were they to give drops to other NMs, you also may see a wider verity. As for right now the only Kaggen, Akvan, Pil, & Qilin, are really spammed, because of Plates & Bodies. The main reason for Kaggen, Akvan, and Pil are gear, however they normally seem to fill nicely, this is because the single plate drops, while not being the best, are still good rewards, and are worth the time to join.

no, they're done for the bodies, though once the run starts coming together people tag along because it's something to do. plates are just a decent way to recoup rubicund costs if you happen to be lucky enough to get them.

All in all it would help overall for a good reason. Making drop rates higher or adding drops to make the parties easier to gather, both are good solutions because of 1 main reason. Parties would get members quicker, meaning more time you can fight the NM, and less time spent shouting. The 2nd reason is everyone has a chance at these other rewards, such as plates.

While I will be the first to say plates need to be more common, let us not kid ourselves into thinking doing so would benefit the pocketbook of anyone other than the people actually trying to make 95 empyreans.

If you are spamming Lancing Lamorak for instance, everyone is getting plates, which means more people are likely to join, and you yourself are getting plates even when not getting your Athos Boots, everyone wins, parties fill faster, and you will get your gear sooner, and easier.

Bad example. Lamorak has a high-value rare, which is both worth spamming him for and would not be nearly as high-value (just like plates, go figure!) were it not as rare.