New 2-hour Abilities

[Czeph]

The main reason I suggested a static number was that when you are pushed to use it you would probably have low mp. however this could become very exploitable with a more fluid number the way your suggesting. think about 18 blms with max mp builds using it at once to one shot notorious monsters that still matter, the reason I suggest 4000 as a static figure is that anything voidwatch onwards usually has significantly more than 72000hp, however as much fun as it would be to do a straight multiple of mp, it would become overpowered imo. With current equipment you would be looking at something like 3000ish maximum mp, potentially even greater numbers. although 2x maximum mp pool for damage figures would work without unbalancing things, I think 3x maximum mp would turn out over powered, and less than 2x mp pool would be underpowered for a 2 hour ability.

[Czeph]

The last thing THF needs is another JA sharing a timer with something else, we have enough of those already. This ability would have to do a substantial amount of damage to warrant a 2hr recast, it's basically TA on a 2hr timer. It's unlikely to do any meaningful damage since SE seems reluctant to improve THF`s DD potential while at the same time giving all our abilities to other jobs and buffing those more than THF.

An ability along the lines of 100% triple attack for 30seconds-1min would be worlds better than this. That or SCH`s proposed 2hr.

yes, that would be a better 2hr option. perhaps named assasin's flurry? but would that apply to weaponskills as well? sounds fun if that's the case.

[Czeph]

also reguarding the response to my endorsement of corsair's 2 hour ability, we must also consider that corsair is a damage dealer that can produce high damage numbers as well as buff a party. Perhaps something more in a dd vain for corsair would have been a more appropriate, but under the assumption that this ability would be used like soulvoice, perhaps the ability to put 3 rolls on under the ability and hit 11 with each roll?

[Dawnn]

Can someone link me to the name's of the new 2 hours?
I'd really love to find them

[Theytak]

Honestly I see this as 1 of the worse 2-hours we are getting. BRD is in the same line as a COR in a way, however COR has to use a 2-hour for 1 more buff where as with the Emp Harp a BRD can already do upto 4 songs at any time. Seems a bit unbalanced on the buffer side in my opinion.

In defense of the cor 2hour, at the very least, it lasts until you zone. So long as you keep overwriting the third roll before it wears off, you can keep up your third roll indefinitely. Not sure if that's a bug, but it's really the only saving grace of it.

Can someone link me to the name's of the new 2 hours?
I'd really love to find them

posted it a few pages back;

Also, apparently, they added some working names for some of the 2hours:
war: Imminent Strikes
whm: Asylum
blm: Sublte Sorcery (The typo is in game)
rdm: Encomium
pld: Righteous Guard
drk: DRK2h (read: no name yet)
bst: Feral Sacrifice (So... yea)
brd: Malinconico
rng: Instinctive Aim
sam: Yaegasumi
nin: Tengen
drg: Rouse Wyvern
smn: Astral Conduit
blu: Unbridled Wisdom
cor: Three to One
pup: Heady Artifice (... /facepalm.... you make the terrible thing worse by giving it a punny name....)
dnc: Grand Pas
sch: Caper Emissarius

If nothing else, they're good at naming stuff. The names don't make them suck any less, but most of them do sound cool.

[Dawnn]

thf's 2hr doesn't have a name? or it isn't on the list?

[Karbuncle]

thf's 2hr doesn't have a name? or it isn't on the list?

Its the only one not on the server ATM. - Oh and MNK

They fear me.

[Mefuki]

I'm not a WHM but according to testing, Asylum doesn't guard against Death, Doom, Encumbrance, Terror, Def Down or Stun. So, here's my question: Is there a point to this 2 Hour given this new information?

[Calatilla]

Its the only one not on the server ATM. - Oh and MNK

They fear me.

If it's as crap as it sounds it doesn't deserve a name.

Edit: I think the whole idea of a second 2hr ability is a waste of resources to tell you the truth, as it stands all but maybe 1(sam?) won't even be used over the originals so it makes no real difference if these all suck or not.

[Vandheer]

Feral Sacrifice... Really SE? We aren't sacrificing our pets... we're eating them!

The scenario you gave us for when BST would use this 2-hour is exactly the same as we predicted and Beastmasters will NEVER be in a situation like that. Allow me to point you to an ongoing thread discussing everyones point of view on this 2-hour with suggestions. x]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-After-Testing.