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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    Your argument here does not follow. That's not the reason most people who use staves use staves.
    i jusr was sharing my opinion. it had nothing to do with ya current conversation. infact i said that to make a joke. To pretty much showcase ine idiocy of derailing threads because you have no counter arguement on what is being said.

    also staves are not all that great i used both and tbh its not THAT high of a boost i will admit it does help a smn and on debuffs. but honestly if u need to over power ur nukes >.> u in the wrong parties.

    Also what i stated wasn't an agrument just an opinion. All i said was you guys bringing in petty bs that has nothing to do with the thread and is subjective at best. No such thing as a 1 set of "the best gear" there are gear for any choice based on ur perfered style of play. If their style works for them who we to say otherwise... we don;t pay for their account.
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    Last edited by Rosina; 07-10-2012 at 09:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Hmmmm.......
    read the above stament
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Hmmmm.......
    Rosina does not believe in gear swaps. That is why he / she doesn't understand why RDM can use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Rosina does not believe in gear swaps. That is why he / she doesn't understand why RDM can use them.
    That or its because its stupid that a job with no staff skill has been one of the most staff using jobs in the game since the elemental staffs. Take your pick, I know my reason for hating them well enough, I still use them, but doesn't mean I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    That or its because its stupid that a job with no staff skill has been one of the most staff using jobs in the game since the elemental staffs. Take your pick, I know my reason for hating them well enough, I still use them, but doesn't mean I like it.
    I wasn't being mean or facetious. She / he doesn't think gear swaps are necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I wasn't being mean or facetious. She / he doesn't think gear swaps are necessary.
    :x
    (Stupid 10character thing -_-)
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    This thread has become as boring tedious and pointless as camping timed NM.
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    Oh look how whitty you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    also staves are not all that great i used both and tbh its not THAT high of a boost i will admit it does help a smn and on debuffs. but honestly if u need to over power ur nukes >.> u in the wrong parties.


    http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Magic_Affinity
    The bonuses associated with elemental affinity are:

    ■A Magic Damage bonus (or penalty), expressed as a percent modifier to spell damage that is calculated independently from other magic damage modifiers such as Weather and Magic Attack Bonus (see: Calculating Magic Damage). The Magic Damage bonus from Elemental Affinity also affects the damage dealt by the Corsair job ability Quick Draw.
    ■A bonus (or penalty) to Magic Accuracy
    ■A bonus (or penalty) to Avatar Perpetuation Cost for Avatars summoned by the player.
    Bonuses are reported in tiers, rather than direct increases.

    ■NQ Elemental staves, such as the Thunder Staff, grant Affinity +1 as a hidden effect.
    ■HQ Elemental staves, such as the Jupiter's Staff, grant Affinity +2 as a hidden effect.
    +6 damage affinity is a flat 35% boost applied seperately, vs 15% on an HQ elemental, more than double the boost. And let's not forget the casting time boost, which can become critical at times.

    Yeah... that's "not all that great".....

    Edit:
    Sorry...but this statement was bugging me, so I just had to vet it with some actual numbers, so when I got back to town I changed jobs and grabbed some staves:

    naked 99 BLM/RDM (102 INT), no food, using aquilo's since it's bonuses will make the damage a little closer to the Magian's. Bees right outside Bastok Mines, watersday.

    Base damage of spells: Blizz IV: 506, Freeze II 710

    no staff at all
    Blizzard IV: 1047
    Freeze II: 1353

    Aquilo's Staff
    Blizzard IV: 1221 (+16.61%)
    Freeze II:1572 (+16.18%)

    Vourukasha 1 (Magic Damage +6)
    Blizzard IV: 1413 (+34.95%)
    Freeze II: 1825 (34.88%)

    That is 18% more output from Aquiilo's to Magian. That is bringing a magian Blizz IV to within 160 damage of an Aquilo's Freeze II (1413 vs 1572). Now, just for the heck of it...let's test that with Thunder IV vs Burst II when the day changes to Windsday:

    Jupiter's, Burst II: 1555
    Apamajas 1, Thunder IV: 1483

    An even closer gap--only 72 damage difference, and they are TWO SPELL TIERS APART!!

    In the end, it's about being MORE EFFICIENT with your nukes.
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    Last edited by RAIST; 07-10-2012 at 03:31 PM.
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    Oh man, she's still here. Please don't argue with Rosina about equipment, I tried arguing sense into him/her about choice vs. efficiency and apparently, a year later, they're still saying the same things. Just... let it be. They'll stop talking eventually.
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