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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    Good day everyone, Just want to put this out that i have been away from the game for some time and returning due to promise of new expansion.

    Any hows, My view on this matter are that HNM's are a really neat and interesting idea of a MMO but as rich of an idea they hold i don't really like them. I have seen so many underhanded methods used that causes a great rift in the player community. I know its not a HNM but when i was helping a friend with SW and we got the claim a whole LS grabbed almost the entire zone and dragged it ontop of us so we couldn't see what was going on during the fight, If we tried to move our fight they would follow and block out entire view of what was going on. We lost the stole claim and yeah, friend was upset over the ordeal since they wanted the YYR.

    I've heard stories like that for the longest time involving all 21hr pop NM's from multiple people and boards. I think for that reason SE should either eliminate them from future game design since it was a nice method but like most things ruined by the player for their own greed. The got rid of outside party damage since it was being used to MPK people as a higher level player dragged a mod parade through a low level camp area cause they were either vindictive or thought too highly of themselves.

    Again it was a amazing idea and awesome for the people who have camped them who enjoy it but it in itself was ruined by the very players who want them. (Most time sorry for those who don't use underhanded methods i know some do exist)
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    Rosina....Pchan's wife.
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    You can't relate Abyssea content to content of olde that actually required you to gear swap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habu View Post
    You can't relate Abyssea content to content of olde that actually required you to gear swap.
    Can't I really? A large part of Aby, despite what you like to believe, is an actual challenge and sometimes with monsters that can turn ugly at a moment's notice. In those situations I can see where gear swaps would be useful.

    But let's assume for a moment that you're right, which you're not, how does that address my observation that gear swaps are better used as a case-by-case basis even in areas outside of Aby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    Can't I really? A large part of Aby, despite what you like to believe, is an actual challenge and sometimes with monsters that can turn ugly at a moment's notice. In those situations I can see where gear swaps would be useful.

    But let's assume for a moment that you're right, which you're not, how does that address my observation that gear swaps are better used as a case-by-case basis even in areas outside of Aby?
    Because in abyssea you have atma and cruor buffs that can pick up the slack more than pieces of gear ever could. However I still don't agree with him, simply pointing out what I think hes getting at.
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    I love Abyssea procs. Hm! I like Dynamis' more? Well, yes, yes I do. Don't care for VW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie View Post
    I love Abyssea procs. Hm! I like Dynamis' more? Well, yes, yes I do. Don't care for VW.
    I don't see what people have against procs, to be honest. They're a good, tactical design that requires people to actually communicate in order to stand a reliable chance to have victory. I hope something like it makes a return in SoA.

    At the same time, I wish Square would please reduce the absurd number of Blue Mage procs on Voidwatch. That would influence me to actually offer it outside of my shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    I don't see what people have against procs, to be honest. They're a good, tactical design that requires people to actually communicate in order to stand a reliable chance to have victory. I hope something like it makes a return in SoA.

    At the same time, I wish Square would please reduce the absurd number of Blue Mage procs on Voidwatch. That would influence me to actually offer it outside of my shell.
    Agreed, procs are honestly the only thing keeping the game from being nothing but zerg fights. At least when you need to proc there is a reason not to kill it in 30 seconds with all of the DDs rushing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie View Post
    I love Abyssea procs. Hm! I like Dynamis' more? Well, yes, yes I do. Don't care for VW.
    Abyssea didn't have enough procs, WAR & NIN having all red, MNK having most blue of a time frame, yellow being the only diverse one,.Dynamis is to bland on requirements, anything with /DNC can proc during JA times, or you focus on WS & JA mobs if in city areas. VW has to many procs, BLU is a good instance of it, need 2 to do it, or WSs where you have to gimp your damage to look for the 1 WS of the entire weapon category that procs. A perfect balance of these would make me happy, and be welcome.
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    >2012 >still don't know how macros work
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