NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Byrth]

Well, first off. Boss floors should never be a time waster for you. If they are, then you're fighting them wrong. Use Fanatic's against Floor 20/40/60/80 bosses and Fool's on floor 100. Your complaints generally make it sound like you need more damage. My group was WAR, THF (me), DRG, WAR, SCH, SCH. I probably should have been on WAR for more damage, but they liked me on THF for Collaborator when someone was dying and there wasn't a Scholar nearby. IMOP, it's not worth it for TH on the 99 boss especially as your group gets close to capping out.

That said, I wouldn't even venture in to NI on my PS2 with Order lamps as they are now. The odds of getting them are fairly low, but I'd still expect to see about one set per run on average and that's a little more rage than I need in my day-to-day playing.

[FrankReynolds]

Gee no way. We hit I think it was 83 on 16 floor jumps last night. Was kinda sad. Got 96 too, but once again, a shit floor and we probably could have seen the boss floor if there wasn't an enemy leader 2 minutes away in some random corner going through a maze. But you know what, our group doesn't care, because we can win.

You should come work for my company. I've been trying to staff up on employees who are highly skilled and okay with getting paid randomly (however much I have laying around / whenever I feel like paying them). So far everyone thinks they should get paid on a regular schedule in a set amount :/

[Rezeak]

You should come work for my company. I've been trying to staff up on employees who are highly skilled and okay with getting paid randomly (however much I have laying around / whenever I feel like paying them). So far everyone thinks they should get paid on a regular schedule in a set amount :/

it's called working on commission you don't always get paid but when you do it's decent.

[FrankReynolds]

it's called working on commission you don't always get paid but when you do it's decent.

No, commission is when you get paid for meeting sales / performance goals. I'm looking for people who will always perform like rockstars, but be willing to accept that sometimes I get unlucky at the tables in vegas and don't want to pay them.

[Fupafighter]

This is a game, not real life. Rules are different. Get used to them.

[Nala]

This is a game, not real life. Rules are different. Get used to them.

Yeah because no real life time is spent doing this event, 6 members x .5 hour runs x 5 tags (if you all have captain) + additional luck factors if attempting multiple runs for 2 hour resets on your scholars, not to mention gather and gear time given a perfect world this event is at least 15 man hours.

If the only person that was negatively affected was you then sure its just a game, but this like any event in 11 involves more then just you, no matter the MMO they are never "Just a game" otherwise we'd beat it and move on to the next game.

[Fupafighter]

Good luck getting SE to change the event to make it so the noobs can get the best armor in the game with minimal effort. I'm done trying to sway yall to just man up and do what is necessary, because you all have been spoiled with easy events and believe this is entirely luck based, when infact it is not. If you're dedicated and skilled, you will win. Maybe complaining here about nyzle isle ill change how they make future content, but flat out, unless they balance all jobs to be equal value to each event, there will be no way that all jobs will be welcome to an event. Basically what I'm saying is, unless all jobs are balanced, certain jobs will always be favored for an event, and if they do make an event where all jobs are useful, then people will just use the more powerful jobs and it will make the even easier and broken for the people using those powerful jobs. Good luck, and screw off.

[Aisu]

this is 100% wrong, it is very luck based try telling that to a run where we probably jumped i think it was 21 times and was still on floor 62 with alot of 2-4 jumps. We cleared the floors fast like allways but if you cant get those big jumps it does not matter how good of a group it is unless your cheating hardcore you will not win. Last run we did again was luck based we got to floor 95 then jumped to floor 100 killed it with 1 min to spare if it landed on any other floor unless it was a really quick floor like 1 enemy in the next room we would have lost. That is again more luck based on what type and how big of a floor it is. I have won 6 out of roughly 30-40 times and your lieing to yourself if you think this is not luck based. Sure its not hard and it requires alot of attempts you just need to keep trying till you get that lucky run you need.

[MarkovChain]

Good luck getting SE to change the event to make it so the noobs can get the best armor in the game with minimal effort.

That's what it is already, no ? Except the noobs are the ones claiming they are skilled when they have 100% cheats.

[wish12oz]

Too many "kill all" floors and other time wasters. What you've (and others) have been dodging is that Nyzule Isle is fairly large, you can't kill everything in 30s or less. Takes too damn long to run from one spot to another, thus the secret ninja techniques come into play. Especially when you take into account killing wyverns who dispell three buffs,

I can melee wyverns to death before they get 100 tp on WAR full timing hasso. You need better gear if you're seriously worried about this.

Or that NM we had to fight three times that zaps all your buffs including food (embrava being immune).

I assume you're talking about the soulflayer here. Again, same thing, I can easily kill it, solo, before it gets 100 TP. If you have good gear and are not terrible before entering the zone, it's kind of a joke. (mighty strikes > ukkos > ukkos > dead soulflayer NM, just dont run into more than the # of wars you have per run, which will never actually happen)

They just exist to suck time out of your run, not to mention having to fight the floor 60 boss.

You should use fanatics drink on the random low lvl floor boss you get every other run.

Assuming 5min total for killing boss / loby time and zoning up timing your looking at a total of 1500 seconds to clear floors, 18 jumps is 83.3 seconds per floor, 20 jumps is 75 seconds per floor. That's not going to happen unless you get very lucky.

It happens when you know what youre doing and have good gear.

If you get to 100 in 15 jumps then your talking 100s per floor which is a bit more manageable for a good group.

I think we have very different ideas of what 'good' is, as I illustrated earlier with my points about the mobs youre so afraid of. I think you're probably just terrible, you and your friends probably need to focus on gearing yourselves/lvling better jobs for the event.

So like I said, 90% luck. That 90% can be reduced / managed using secret ninja techniques.

Just because you said it, doesn't make it right.

Sorry I didnt post in awhile too, was busy playing Diabro thlee in my free time instead of browsing forums~