Thread: NEO Nyzul 2.0

Originally Posted by Llana_Virren

Demon, I agree with you that NI shouldn't be so retardedly configured that RDM is useless (RDM mage or melee); however I can tell you that any BLU worth his salt will blow RDM out of the water. Sorry to break it to you.

Using magic I will agree, BLU magic is highly powerful and RDM has no way to come close to competing with it, melee I will disagree saying they are about equal, simply how I see it.

Honestly in any case you look at it its funny how they did it because BLU & SCH are the reasons why RDM is looked down on and obsolete as much as it is, SCH took everything from White & Black magic being on 1 job, and BLU took everything that is the hybrid-melee mage, including its gear.

Either way as it was said this is getting off topic, I was simply trying to explain how RDM could be of use in NNI, and also explained that due to buffing it would be impossible anyways. I might as well stop talking on here because it seems like 90% of the community is ignorant dickheads with the inability to see any point of view apart from their own.

Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Using magic I will agree, BLU magic is highly powerful and RDM has no way to come close to competing with it, melee I will disagree saying they are about equal, simply how I see it.

Honestly in any case you look at it its funny how they did it because BLU & SCH are the reasons why RDM is looked down on and obsolete as much as it is, SCH took everything from White & Black magic being on 1 job, and BLU took everything that is the hybrid-melee mage, including its gear.

Either way as it was said this is getting off topic, I was simply trying to explain how RDM could be of use in NNI, and also explained that due to buffing it would be impossible anyways. I might as well stop talking on here because it seems like 90% of the community is ignorant dickheads with the inability to see any point of view apart from their own.

Ignorant? We understand job roles, how does that make us ignorant? I was stating facts, and you became biased and angry with me.

Originally Posted by Llana_Virren

Demon, I agree with you that NI shouldn't be so retardedly configured that RDM is useless (RDM mage or melee); however I can tell you that any BLU worth his salt will blow RDM out of the water. Sorry to break it to you.

The problem is that he doesn't know job roles. He is trying to force a job that isn't efficient at something, into a role that the game no longer accepts as relevant. It's kind of like apoc drk's thinking they're badass, when all the +2 dark running around with resolution are staring at him going "Really?".

You honestly don't know the power of a well geared blu then 0.o. Comparing CDC blu to a CDC rdm is already putting that blu ahead. Then you don't even mention their ability to destroy with skillchain and their quick high damaging spells. All of which make blu a machine compared to rdm. Rdm can nuke, yes, but it is nowhere as effective as a blu. It's biased to say that rdm beats blu based on him being a rdm main. And yes, well geared jobs can beat gimp jobs, that's a fact. Also, I just checked him. Seems he is missing some important pieces in his builds if he wants to be an oober rdm. And why is he complaining about needing to level jobs for events if he has war sam drk AND sch 99. Maaaan gtfo.

Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Might I point out that I have said many times I want more gear for my RDM? This means there is growth to be made and as such why should you expect to look at me and see all of the dream gear I have in many of the builds I have made? I make them to set myself goals to look forward to and to show friends what I think might be good if they did certain things with their jobs such as my DRK, SAM, SCH, WHM, BLM and now BLU builds I have.




Leveled does not mean capped skills, with good gear (WAR, SAM and DRK are all in 4/5~5/5+1 with maybe 1~2 pieces +2, SCH is like a 2nd main sharing many of the same pieces of gear with my RDM and has full+2, making it very nice) Emp, Relic, experience, correct merits... If it were as simple as leveling a job and going in yes, those gimps you claim cant win, would win. Its not that simple apparently because you even said it yourself, so yes, I put work into my jobs before I use them. WAR was for red procs, DRK was because I liked the job before I got to 90 and found that I was a gimp for using a Scythe like I had all these years, and SAM because I needed it as a sub for both of the previous jobs, and I liked its TP control, causing me to level it further. I lost interest in these jobs because due to being to spread I was unable to accomplish much on my RDM, as such I ceased working on them nearly as much, along with my many other jobs, and have been focused on RDM.

So 1. You could make a 500 enhancing magic sch with little effort at the moment, but choose to not because you want nyzle isle gear and such for your red mage. You could just finish sch and make static, and walla PROFIT, then go do w.e on your sch. 2. You said yourself leveling a job for any event is stupid, but yet you leveled warrior to proc red....hmmmmmm
It seriously would offset you by one week to gear your sch sam or drk well and then you can enter neo nyzle with a good group eventually. Just do it man. You keep making excuses.

Originally Posted by Fupafighter

So 1. You could make a 500 enhancing magic sch with little effort at the moment, but choose to not because you want nyzle isle gear and such for your red mage. You could just finish sch and make static, and walla PROFIT, then go do w.e on your sch. 2. You said yourself leveling a job for any event is stupid, but yet you leveled warrior to proc red....hmmmmmm
It seriously would offset you by one week to gear your sch sam or drk well and then you can enter neo nyzle with a good group eventually. Just do it man. You keep making excuses.

I actually have a Nyzul static I go with 1~2 times a week and went tonight, we made it to 96 which is best so far, I am working on Enhancing magic for my SCH as well which is why I bothered to even get Rubeus boots (outside of /NIN capped shadow fastcast) right now. As for leveling a job for an event I speak it because its how I feel, I got my WAR leveled and geared well enough with skills to do red procs just for the reason of my Almace in general and to help my ls. Abyssea is much wider and open along with much more done and blah blah blah, I have been through it and hated it. You cant change the past, but you can try to change the future, I did what I did for Almace, I disagree with the fact I had to do it, and so I will try to change it with my ideas for future events. As for gearing a heavy DD, I probably will give in sometime when I'm tired of coming up with ideas how this content can be explained and possibly fixed, until then I will probably cling to hope some people in the Dev team see my point of view and how these fixes could work.