NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Llana_Virren]

Its not about what SE wants.

Keep telling yourself that.

On a side note: what's the problem with consoles and PCs playing on the same servers again? Other than the failed console support, which will still be a problem on a console-only server because SE will not pay them enough attention... but other than that?

[Demon6324236]

Its not about what SE wants. Its about what the real players want.

Are you talking about FFXI still? Sorry, think you must be talking about a different game, SE seems to ignore players 90% of the time or more especially when the players are asking for something SE doesn't want to do. Like macros, or VW drops, or NNI, or new (new does not mean revised or remade!) content. Just saying, if you get SE to change their ways then I give you credit you did something I thought not possible, at best I would expect them to say you can just ignore other players who you don't like and use /blacklist. Past that I guess good luck with that, because chances are slim at best I think.

[FrankReynolds]

Are you talking about FFXI still? Sorry, think you must be talking about a different game, SE seems to ignore players 90% of the time or more especially when the players are asking for something SE doesn't want to do. Like macros, or VW drops, or NNI, or new (new does not mean revised or remade!) content. Just saying, if you get SE to change their ways then I give you credit you did something I thought not possible, at best I would expect them to say you can just ignore other players who you don't like and use /blacklist. Past that I guess good luck with that, because chances are slim at best I think.

Shhh.... lets get behind this idea. That way they can put all the PS2 people on their own little island and start making some serious upgrades to the PC version. :P

[Rezeak]

I'm getting close to 2 full sets and you don't need to cheat to clear but if you get unlucky on Order or Same time lamps you are done/run over w/e

Well order is auto fail most of the time anyway cause of the recast on lamps.

Either way this content is designed in an elitist way and imo it sucks for most of the community

Atm to hit consistently (1 in 2-5 runs) 100 you need 2 X SCH and 4 GOOD DDs and all know what there doing (aka done nyzle before amd SCH know how to put out embrava and AoE Regen V FAST)

The issue really is this...

If you have a perfect group you'll get the gear very fast (for what it is)

then if you have a less than perfect group can get to floor 80 consistently then you'll take 25 X longer than the perfect group

Then for ya average pick up group your prolly looks at 100x longer vs a perfect group

If ya refuse to lvl SCH or gear out a great DD then you'll prolly never get there outside of a group carrying you.

Either way Nyzle isle could be fixed in 2 simple steps.

1. Order floors removed and Same time lamps never turn off so just hit as you pass em

2. Astrums should be more rewarding for floors 20-80 and u should be able to upgrade since only 80/100 gear is worth going for.

like
2 20 Asts -> 1 40 Ast
2 40 Asts -> 1 60 Ast
2 60 Asts -> 1 80 Ast
3-5 80 Asts -> 1 100 Asts

and you should be able to trade 1 ast for gear depending what floor you got it from.

Btw imo SE made it like this and will make it easier slowly so that Nyzle isn't spammed by everyone and there mom or there windows 3.1/Dos servers crash cause they can never handle instances lol.

[Raksha]

This conversation again?

Easiest way to play 2 FFXI's is to partition your harddrive, install FFXI on both partitions, and play a the game off each one on one PC.

Actually the easiest way would be to only install FFXI once and just use two windower sessions.

[Demon6324236]

Shhh.... lets get behind this idea. That way they can put all the PS2 people on their own little island and start making some serious upgrades to the PC version. :P

They are updating the UI for PC only and leaving Xbox & PS2 behind if I remember correctly. So really no need to leave anyone out if they are willing to do this kind of thing now. I will however never support a forced removal of people from certain consoles, I have many friends & ls-mates from PC & Xbox who I would like to keep here, forced movings would still hurt the game as a whole in many ways. Tho I'm sure you were joking I still figure might as well give a serious reply to speak my point of view :P

[user201108211515]

May be if console players hadnt spent 8ish years being cheated at things like HNM... We would have alot more console players still on the game. No one likes to play a game they have no chance at cauz people are cheating. It could be a way for SE to get console players back into the game.

[user201108211515]

Keep telling yourself that.

On a side note: what's the problem with consoles and PCs playing on the same servers again? Other than the failed console support, which will still be a problem on a console-only server because SE will not pay them enough attention... but other than that?

If enough people complain then SE will change the game. The have done it many times already.

MPK nerf. they changed the fishing system(even though it didnt do much to stop bots). HNM was eventually changed. People complained about salvage dupers for a year before we finally saw any action on that. So yea keep thinkn you are unable to influence them in any way. Its the players that dictate what happens in game. May be if people complained about the "problems" they have instead of just geting a bot to solve only thier "problems" SE would have had to make those changes by now. They made a windower but if that wasnt enough people should say so.

SE wont do anything if people dont complain that is for sure.

[Demon6324236]

If enough people complain then SE will change the game. The have done it many times already.

MPK nerf. they changed the fishing system(even though it didnt do much to stop bots). HNM was eventually changed. People complained about salvage dupers for a year before we finally saw any action on that. So yea keep thinkn you are unable to influence them in any way. Its the players that dictate what happens in game. May be if people complained about the "problems" they have instead of just geting a bot to solve only thier "problems" SE would have had to make those changes by now. They made a windower but if that wasnt enough people should say so.

SE wont do anything if people dont complain that is for sure.

Your right, they changed some things, still no changes to macros, VW, NNI, and many more current things, I don't think I should have to wait years for fixes. By the time they fix things they become irrelevant, like HNMs, they are fixed but now they are mostly pointless other than Black Belt imo because many things they drop are out of date. So by the way things seem to mainly get fixed to me, you will get your PS2/Xbox servers the week before they discontinue PS2/Xbox FFXI support. Banning Salvage people took a year, so we should just sit back a year and wait while others progress? No, but it appears it must be done.

Mainly SE will change what they think is broken, 90% of the player base complains about, GMs are called on, things that are against the ToS and the like. Changing to what players want isn't something they seem to do much. MPK was the player base complaining, GMs, and SE seeing they made the game flawed to allow the death of many players that should not have been allowed. Fishing was SE knowing it was broken & ToS, ToS mainly but SE knew what was broken letting them get by the ToS, and then in trying to fix it they basically got nothing done. HNM was not changed till after the time the rewards were no longer truly worth the old effort needed, as such it was changed. Salvage people were banned for cheating, but as you said, it took a year, and apparently alot of bitching, to make them fix it... I wont say SE does nothing or they ignore the players, but they don't often do things they don't want to do themselves, we are in their world they created and we have to deal with what we are given, not to say they don't give us what we want time to time, but I think its because either we wont shut the hell up or because they agree.

As for watching people cheat for years, not that I know from experience but it seems from what people say that there was a time PS2 & Xbox had unfair advantages, PC had to deal with it at the time I guess, but that wasn't even from 3rd party, it had to have been game design. To say your being cheated is one thing, to complain about it is ok, but to say you want to remove every possible cheater from the game and you think SE will do it when they have many things they refuse to change is crazy. Many things in this game are broken and they tell us they wont fix it or they have no plans to, like... Enmity... something that is gone, destroyed, broken, and holds no use, but they don't want to fix it. There are even a few jobs like PLD & THF built on that system alone with little else and yet they still refuse! If anything why don't you complain PC gets new UI and consoles don't? Thats unfair too isn't it? I mean PC will have another advantage, maybe you consider that cheating because its something you don't get but PC does, making it more accessible and easier.

Arguing with you is hopeless, you just keep saying how it would be better with the servers split so you can play with a few small groups, but you don't understand the idea of what your asking for in the end I think. I doubt you will get enough people on a server with limited players to actually make it work, AH, Bazaars, partys, VW, Legion, so many things would be impossible due to lack of people or lack of interest and would make it worthless, effectively killing half the games features by itself. All new content coming out is group oriented, mainly large groups(VW) or small well refined skilled groups(NNI) but on the server you speak of it would be impossible to get people you need for it together and work on them because not everyone wants to do the same thing and not enough people would be around to do everything.

[user201108211515]

ugh this is why I blocked your posts you talk alot but dont say much. Thats all your oppinion and your can think what you want but to say my idea wouldnt work just cauz you say. Much like you demand the fixes even if you have to use a bot.. just cauz you say.. Its not about you or me its about what is right. It isnt right that honest people are forced to play with people that cheat. period end of conversation. Nothing you or anyone can say will change the fact that cheating, at a kids game no less. Is wrong. And its a slap in the face to charge people for a broken game. So have fun posting pointless essays of what you think but I dont need 3 paragraphs to know what is right and what is wrong.

By your thinking. I should find a bot that causes other people that bot to lag or freeze up. Since its an aspect of the game I dont like and I'm too impatient for SE to do the right thing. If you have ever been on XBL you should know that people have the power to drop you from the games. reseting your router and what not. So is that what you would have me do. Fight fire with fire? Hax to stop hacks? When will it end? Or should I do the right thing. Play by the rules. Voice my complaints. And hope that majority will rule in the form of other players complaining as well.

Seriously done talkn to you.