NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Demon6324236]

Didn't know having 20 jobs made you good at this game, I thought it was the opposite. I was just clearly going on about how you used to think nin was good for neo nyzle lol. Saying its damage was fine compared to other DD. lol.

You think having all jobs leveled is bad?

[Llana_Virren]

And so dies another thread with the exchange of unnecessary insults. I'll say this: having 20 jobs levelled is neither good nor bad. "I have a 99 xyz" is a moot argument when you can't play the job properly; not saying this applies to anyone, just saying that "having jobs levelled" is neither a positive nor a negative.

As for being a broken record, these are "official forums" not chatrooms; a few caveats and sideline conversations are fine, but the minute we start bickering and making uninformed, unsupported claims, or attack other members, we defeat the purpose of the forums.

We love to complain about how SE's dev team don't do anything of importance, yet we can't even stay on track about a simple thread without making things personal.

Keep your personal issues out of here, so we can keep these threads relevent to the issues at hand.

[FrankReynolds]

Didn't know having 20 jobs made you good at this game, I thought it was the opposite. I was just clearly going on about how you used to think nin was good for neo nyzle lol. Saying its damage was fine compared to other DD. lol.

Was that the thread where miss "I'm so good I can clear floor 100 all the time said :

I'm pretty disappointed with this crap. How about an event with progression, where you actually work towards stuff.
NO MORE DUMB LUCK BASED SYSTEMS PLEASE.

Or the one where you where you randomly started going on about how bad ninja was for no apparent reason when no one even brought ninja up, and then proclaimed that dancer was amazing in NI2.0?

[Demon6324236]

And so dies another thread with the exchange of unnecessary insults. I'll say this: having 20 jobs levelled is neither good nor bad. "I have a 99 xyz" is a moot argument when you can't play the job properly; not saying this applies to anyone, just saying that "having jobs levelled" is neither a positive nor a negative.

As for being a broken record, these are "official forums" not chatrooms; a few caveats and sideline conversations are fine, but the minute we start bickering and making uninformed, unsupported claims, or attack other members, we defeat the purpose of the forums.

We love to complain about how SE's dev team don't do anything of importance, yet we can't even stay on track about a simple thread without making things personal.

Keep your personal issues out of here, so we can keep these threads relevent to the issues at hand.

Agreed, I only made the comment because funny enough some jobs (at least RDM) have to level at least 15 to get a really nice WS piece since they don't get Twilight Helm. A forum is where we go to talk, share ideas, in this case we come here to tell SE what we think of what they are doing to their game. Some see faces they remember from other threads like these 2 and end up fighting in the thread stupidly, which harms the thread and also solves nothing. In any case people should just shutup and leave if they are going to do it, I mean look at the ADL thread, its a great show of derailment at its best!

[Khajit]

Perhaps the devs should give time extensions for completing the ordered lamp floors in 1~2 tries? As it stands you cant beat an ordered lamp floor in time to get where you want to go without cheating.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

You think having all jobs leveled is bad?

It does limit gear quite severely. No matter how many jobs are on the same gear the fact is it's simply not possible to gear all jobs to the best of your ability.

[Chamaan]

So I got this odd idea. They introduced the astrarium system where you can trade a bunch of level 20 wins for a piece of level 40 gear and such. Can we get an option that lets us use those to buy a KI that lets us start at that floor instead? Like. Say you hit level 40 consistently, you store up 20 win tokens that can be traded for a 60 floor gear, but instead of the gear you get a KI that lets you start from level 40 instead of level 1. That way you get a better chance at a run to 100. Nothing gets nerfed, people willing to put hard work into the event get a fair shake without modding the game or cheating, and it gives us a reason to aim for floors other than 80 and 100.

[Demon6324236]

So I got this odd idea. They introduced the astrarium system where you can trade a bunch of level 20 wins for a piece of level 40 gear and such. Can we get an option that lets us use those to buy a KI that lets us start at that floor instead? Like. Say you hit level 40 consistently, you store up 20 win tokens that can be traded for a 60 floor gear, but instead of the gear you get a KI that lets you start from level 40 instead of level 1. That way you get a better chance at a run to 100. Nothing gets nerfed, people willing to put hard work into the event get a fair shake without modding the game or cheating, and it gives us a reason to aim for floors other than 80 and 100.

Chances are if they did this it would be expended when you goto that floor to start. It is a good idea never the less, but I still see rages because people fought floor 40 boss 25 times, then they had their 6 runs with 2 of them getting to 100 and the others getting bad jumps/floors.

[Demon6324236]

It does limit gear quite severely. No matter how many jobs are on the same gear the fact is it's simply not possible to gear all jobs to the best of your ability.

Not the best no, but soon you can get close. Honestly with the 3 VW gear sets and the NNI gear sets being put on storage slips now you will be able to hold alot of great gear with little space taken, between NNI, VW, and Emp+2 gear, most jobs are very well geared imo. However I will say yes it is harder to manage, myself I see more jobs as better, even if not the best geared if its truly needed you still have it, like MNK for blue procs in aby or SCH for NNI, Alex SMN for many things, all sorts of things you can benefit from just having the job, well geared or not, and so far as DDs go, much of their best gear is in VW & NNI which since it is soon to be storeable, I think we can safely say it will soon be easier to gear many jobs good/well/great, so long as space is mainly what you were referring to, if not then I'm not sure what, myself I think thats about the only big problem I have found ^_^;

[MarkovChain]

On a separate note, it seems like some players are finding the lamp floors to be the most troublesome. I would be happy to submit any suggestions you have for improving this aspect of Nyzul, so please list them out and I will talk to the development team about them.

Make the lamp order different than what you see with cheat tools (basically make the lamp order random) ? That's going to be fun. At least this way both cheaters and non cheaters are going to be on par. And it is going to have no effect if you don't cheat.