Thread: NEO Nyzul 2.0

PC only servers please. Then cheaters can cheat all they want and platform players will have nothing to complain about.

I wasn't trying to claim that I have perfectly geared 20 jobs, or even that it would be a good idea. That guy saw that I have a kannagi, and can't let it go for some reason. So every time I chime in on a thread and say "I don't like this" or "they should change X to X", he chimes in about how ninja sucks in an attempt (I'll admit I'm a sucker for a good trolling every now and then) to derail my argument.

It's really not likely that too many people have mastered / geared 20 jobs. However, it's incredibly lame to act like a person can't be good at both Ninja and another job that is more well suited for Nyzul Isle.

I doubt SE will do anything about the current state, but the fact remains that all this content is incredibly cheap and repetitive. They should make this event easier. Not just because good gear should be accessible to everyone, but mainly because the event is too limited in scope to be fun for very long. The should have made an event that had more entertainment value if they wanted to make the gear so epic that it was going to require cheats / perfection and or months or grinding to get it.

They were lazy with this event and the result is that there are a few really good players and a whole bunch of cheaters who have the gear, and the rest of the population who are just alienated. I say this stuff because things are screwed up. I can flee hack and look through walls just as easilly as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pretend that's how it should be.

Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Make the lamp order different than what you see with cheat tools (basically make the lamp order random) ? That's going to be fun. At least this way both cheaters and non cheaters are going to be on par. And it is going to have no effect if you don't cheat.

Most Cheaters have the armour now anyway.

Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

Most Cheaters have the armour now anyway.

Yup they are wearing a bullseye of sorts for when the ban hammer drops.. They will be the 1st to go. They will not be missed.

Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

I wasn't trying to claim that I have perfectly geared 20 jobs, or even that it would be a good idea. That guy saw that I have a kannagi, and can't let it go for some reason. So every time I chime in on a thread and say "I don't like this" or "they should change X to X", he chimes in about how ninja sucks in an attempt (I'll admit I'm a sucker for a good trolling every now and then) to derail my argument.

It's really not likely that too many people have mastered / geared 20 jobs. However, it's incredibly lame to act like a person can't be good at both Ninja and another job that is more well suited for Nyzul Isle.

I doubt SE will do anything about the current state, but the fact remains that all this content is incredibly cheap and repetitive. They should make this event easier. Not just because good gear should be accessible to everyone, but mainly because the event is too limited in scope to be fun for very long. The should have made an event that had more entertainment value if they wanted to make the gear so epic that it was going to require cheats / perfection and or months or grinding to get it.

They were lazy with this event and the result is that there are a few really good players and a whole bunch of cheaters who have the gear, and the rest of the population who are just alienated. I say this stuff because things are screwed up. I can flee hack and look through walls just as easilly as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pretend that's how it should be.

My point was you really can't be well geared for 20 jobs, unless you want standard +2 sets and gimp sets all over. I have 7 jobs and that is all I can afford gear wise. And you were talking about ninja being as good as other 2 hand DD in neo nyzle, which made me believe, even before sch x2 4 heavy DD burn for neo nyzle, that you had no idea how to do damage or gear properly, so I checked you on ffxiah.com ONCE. I never said you suck at ninja and can't play other DD jobs, I simply stated you were uninformed that ninja is a lackluster DD compared to other DD out of abyssea. When someone throws an insult at you, you call them a creep, or a fat tryhard. You're almost as blind as pimpchan, who thinks mnk tp as fast as sam. It's impossible to talk to you because you're biased and childish. You think everything is an insult and yet you insult others. Back on topic. The gear is available for anyone with a proper job setup. All you seriously need is 2 sch with 500 enhancing magic(not that hard), 4 heavy DD. Gearing a heavy DD job isn't hard either. YOu can get by easily and efficiently with a sam/war stardiver draco couse, or a drk with an AH great sword and resolution. Just make sure for the love of god that you're using 26% haste and a decent ws set. You have to have decent gear. No, skill will not win this event alone, because every second counts, thus better gear = more damage = better win rate. Just keep at it and you will eventually get gear.

Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Not the best no, but soon you can get close. Honestly with the 3 VW gear sets and the NNI gear sets being put on storage slips now you will be able to hold alot of great gear with little space taken, between NNI, VW, and Emp+2 gear, most jobs are very well geared imo. However I will say yes it is harder to manage, myself I see more jobs as better, even if not the best geared if its truly needed you still have it, like MNK for blue procs in aby or SCH for NNI, Alex SMN for many things, all sorts of things you can benefit from just having the job, well geared or not, and so far as DDs go, much of their best gear is in VW & NNI which since it is soon to be storeable, I think we can safely say it will soon be easier to gear many jobs good/well/great, so long as space is mainly what you were referring to, if not then I'm not sure what, myself I think thats about the only big problem I have found ^_^;

Most voidwatch gear is situational and usually not recommended to weaponskill in, or tp in. Please people, stop Tping in toci's harness on jobs like mnk dnc nin, it's a downgrade....

Originally Posted by user201108211515

PC only servers please. Then cheaters can cheat all they want and platform players will have nothing to complain about.

1.Console games are no longer made, the player base would die off slowly with no way to rebuild.

2.Friends would be separated due to playing on different platforms.

3.Ls members would be separated due to playing on different platforms.

4.People would lose mules due to using different platforms to run multiple characters.

5.Servers for consoles & PC would need reworked completely due to the fact you can currently use any character on any platform, it would need reworked to be specific.

6.The game would need to identify which you play on so it knows where to put you.

7.Servers would need reworked to condense players into smaller servers to even out player population.

8.AH stock & supply would be hurt due to fewer players.

9.Shouts, partys, and events in general would be much more difficult due to fewer players.

10.Linkshells would break apart due to too many people of 1 platform being in it, and thus making the current ls shrink to an unacceptable size.

11.Payment options would be reintegrated for console players, as to allow paying without a PC.

12.By doing this SE would go back on the idea of taking many platforms and having them all play together with one another, to my knowledge part of the reason why FFXIV will not be coming to the X-box, because Microsoft does not wanting them connecting it with other platforms.


These are just a few problems your idea would create off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more I can't be bothered to think of at the moment, but these 12 should hopefully give you an idea how this is BAD.


What you ask for is stupid, unlikely, and would hurt/kill the game. Shut up, stop suggesting it, and stop thinking everyone on PC cheats. You sound like a racist cop "I arrest black people all the time but whites almost never do crimes, we should just lock up or send away all the black people, that would fix our problems." it sounds stupid, it is stupid, it shouldn't, and wont, happen. SE has kept us all on the same servers for awhile, its how the game was made, its how its been played all these years, shut up with the "platform racism" and understand it would hurt this game more than anything you stand to gain from it!

Originally Posted by Fupafighter

Most voidwatch gear is situational and usually not recommended to weaponskill in, or tp in. Please people, stop Tping in toci's harness on jobs like mnk dnc nin, it's a downgrade....

Side Note:I was only speaking of storeable gear, this does not include shiny, only Ogier, Athos, and Rubeus for VW, but I do understand the limits of usefulness for this gear and reasons why it should not be fulltimed or used in most/all sets.

Ogier hands are best STP hands in the game, Rubeus hands are best enfeebling magic, Rubeus feet are great for all forms of skill if jobs do not have anything with more than +10 in that slot. Ogier head is great for tanking due to great -damage taken in that slot. Ogier body has decent haste while providing defensive traits as well such as -magic damage taken. Rubeus Spats are the best haste pants for most mages, be it for recast or meleeing they are nice. NNI gear, Heavy DD set has the best TP Head & Legs in the game for most or all jobs on it so far as I know. Mage set has the best MAB hands and feet in the game, best cure potency legs in the game, and a good nuking head. Light DD set is great for the jobs it is for as most can use everything except the head piece (which is swaped for AF3+2 head) and still cap haste while getting many amazing stats in general.

I am not saying they are the greatest pieces of gear but many are good/great, unstoreable gear like Ace's Leggings (which so far as I know is still the best feet for SAM & DRK TPing, not sure about DRG, not a big player of DRG...) are still multijobs and can be used as such, making them another potent piece of gear that takes little space. But its all in all a good list of good gear you can use and store now, I have no intent to super gear all jobs, but I will level them all and gear them at least decent, I have to level 15/20 at least anyways just for Maat's Cap because its the best CDC head RDM gets still...

That's the problem with people. And that is why they struggle, because they do not attempt to make the best of themselves. And they expect floor 100 gear to drop for doing an event for a half hour lol. All it takes is the right setup. People seem to be willing to spam pil and kaggen for those bodies for months, but won't give new nyzle a chance because they actually have to try for a half hour a day?.... Come on. If you want neo nyzle gear for no effort involved at all, level sch.

Originally Posted by Fupafighter

That's the problem with people. And that is why they struggle, because they do not attempt to make the best of themselves. And they expect floor 100 gear to drop for doing an event for a half hour lol. All it takes is the right setup. People seem to be willing to spam pil and kaggen for those bodies for months, but won't give new nyzle a chance because they actually have to try for a half hour a day?.... Come on. If you want neo nyzle gear for no effort involved at all, level sch.

The reason is the wait time I would think. Pil, Kaggen, these can be done as many times as you want so long as you have the people, where as Nyzul is only so long as you have tags which is at most 4 times in a single day. And SCHs only go so far, you still have to cap Enhancing magic, and work for the gear to get higher Enhancing magic. SCH is the easist of these jobs but still not a cake walk. I think its foolish an event is only able to be done effectivly with a certain setup, I would rather goto the idea of being able to play what I like and still be able to get what I want.

So far as people not trying to be the best they can be, I plan to make myself the best RDM possible, but even so, that changes nothing of the fact that other jobs I have leveled will never be worked on as much, your main is your main, chances are its where your heart lies and where you will spend most of your work and time to build upon. I am all for making myself a kick ass PLD since I already have some good gear for it and Emp/Relic swords, but it doesnt mean I plan to be a great or best possible PLD, its not my main. With VW/NNI gear you can be a highly effective DD, but all the same if its your main your more likely to put more work into it and push it to its limits.