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  1. #91
    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    I didn't say it's always 30 sec before it clones did you read ? I was asking until which % it is 30 sec, because as everyone has been explaining to Nynja and other BG rejects, ADL dies very fast so I know an ally of decent DD is going to rape it before 30 sec.
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    More good info on ADL (aka not one from BG nor its unverified wiki). The first clone appears exactly after 30 sec into (pop time -> sumonning time) the fight which implies that a minimum of 6 real DDs (aka level 90+ empy monks with soulvoice ma/ma/min&haste) should bring ADL to ~zero% before it splits leaving you with pale copies of maybe 1% HP. This makes a setup of 6 MNK/WAR 1 BRD 1 SMN basically 100% win (baring dynamic implosion and death, the last one rarely happens)..
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    I'm also surprised noone has call pchan on the fact WAR is a better zerg job than MNK

    No clue if Souleater is nerfed on ADL but if it isn't DRK is as well. (not to mention souleater isn't on a 2hr recast ^^)
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 02-15-2012 at 05:46 AM.
    Main : 99 DRK
    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
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    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

  2. #92
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Because WAR sucks and drk is not a job, nevermind that fact that high% ODD at 300% tp strongely favors monk...
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  3. #93
    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Because WAR sucks and drk is not a job, nevermind that fact that high% ODD at 300% tp strongely favors monk...
    The ODD that only procs on one hand yes,,, vs the odd that can proc on every hit for a Ukkos war + 100% crit rate)

    30% > 15% thx
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    Main : 99 DRK
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

  4. #94
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    pchan is retarded enough to think ADL is a level 90 mob, why does anything else it says bother you?
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  5. #95
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    It's fun to see how nynja is be ridiculised in the relic thread where someone is explaining him even NQ DL is duo-able.
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  6. #96
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    The level 99 Relic Trail is the most horribly designed trail out there its hard compared to the other 2. ADL isn't a hard fight by any means, its just a zerg him down with perfect defense type fight with little skill involved use a few ofensive JA and WS him till he is dead. The actual hard part is gathering the 12-17 other people to help you kill it for only your benefit. The days of huge linkshells are pretty much gone for the most part for most people. Most players only know a couple people that they do stuff with on FFXI. Most people will not want to help you because they view it as a waste of their time. Sure you can offer people 1m a kill but I doubt you get many takers. Because the solo farm rate is actually higher. Your talking in the range of like 17m for 1 item. Very few people in FFXI are willing to do something for free or help someone else out just for the sake of helping someone out.

    Void Watch is easily pug-able I see pick up groups forming for tier 6 on a daily basis, people sell the trail drops for 300k-600k on average. This makes getting an empyrean weapon done much easier. Everyone gets their own drops so there really isn't a conflict with loot or anything here.

    Mythic Weapons have it easy too because all your doing is killing a bunch of NMs designed for level 75. I killed PW at level 90 and he could barley even hit my Paladin for above 10 damage. The only time I took more damage when is when he summoned some caster adds. This fight is such a joke now.

    Relic trail is so much harder to finish then the other 2.

    Ways to fix it would be.
    Make Umbral Marrow drop from NQ Dynamis Lord at a lesser rate.
    Make Umbral Marrow buyable from Dynamis goblins in the beastman strongholds with dynamis currency. So the solo player can eventually finish them.

    Pretty much all the other trails were soloable up till this point.

    If nothing changes I would just forget about upgrading my Excalibur to 95 to 99 and do my Almace to 99 instead because it would be so much easier.
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  7. #97
    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    I would just like to ask the community team to pass on that we feel that Arch dyna lord is too strong if the Dev team want us to fight it repeatedly so is there any chance we will see a ADL nerf like we saw w/ the harder VW mobs?
    It's funny how people have gone from "we don't want time sinks we just want a challenge with guaranteed rewards" in years past to "Oh what the hell lets stop pretending. We just want everything easy"

    5 Umbral marrow is not hard unless you are one of those who abandoned your LS when abyssea came out to dual box because you thought you'd never need them again. Anyone with good standing in a decent LS isn't going to have problems getting this done. It'll take you a few events over maybe a month (weekly) to get it finished. If you dumped your LS last year well tough, you screwed yourself. I'm now laughing my ass off at everyone who told me I was dumb for sticking with an LS.

    As for Stage 2, SE has said that this isn't intended for everyone and you can yell and scream all you want but that's how SE has decided to roll with it. It's almost impossible by design.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    all the other trails were soloable up till this point.
    Animated weapons and Hydras were not soloable.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 02-15-2012 at 07:31 AM.

  8. #98
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    double post
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    It's funny how people have gone from "we don't want time sinks we just want a challenge with guaranteed rewards" in years past to "Oh what the hell lets stop pretending. We just want everything easy"

    5 Umbral marrow is not hard unless you are one of those who abandoned your LS when abyssea came out to dual box because you thought you'd never need them again. Anyone with good standing in a decent LS isn't going to have problems getting this done. It'll take you a few events over maybe a month (weekly) to get it finished. If you dumped your LS last year well tough, you screwed yourself. I'm now laughing my ass off at everyone who told me I was dumb for sticking with an LS.

    As for Stage 2, SE has said that this isn't intended for everyone and you can yell and scream all you want but that's how SE has decided to roll with it. It's almost impossible by design.



    Animated weapons and Hydras were not solable.
    There are thousands of people who still run with an LS......... that doesn't do dynamis as an event.

    There are thousands of people who don't have an LS because the LS fragmented when abyssea was released.

    There are thousands of other reasons to not have a dynamis LS.

    Abandoning your LS has nothing to do with the difficulty of the trial.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Yes, I confirm what I said. The clones pop at exactly 30s unless you bring them to unknown amount of HP before that. You on the other hand are claiming they are not time based apparently.
    No, earlier you were claiming:
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    The first clone appears exactly after 30 sec into (pop time -> sumonning time) the fight which implies that a minimum of 6 real DDs (aka level 90+ empy monks with soulvoice ma/ma/min&haste) should bring ADL to ~zero% before it splits leaving you with pale copies of maybe 1% HP.
    6 real DDs can get him down to nearly 0% HP before he splits. Your claim not mine. The post of yours I keep quoting implies that ADL splits into clones exactly 30 seconds after he's popped regardless of how low his HP gets, and goes on to suggest that any decent group should be able to nearly kill ADL before he gets the chance to split.

    Your claim NOW is that it's HP based as well as time based. Your claim THEN was it had nothing to do with HP. Thus my indignation when you claimed:
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    I didn't say it's always 30 sec before it clones did you read ?
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