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    [SIZE="6"]wheres the god damn video ?!?[/SIZE]
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    More good info on ADL (aka not one from BG nor its unverified wiki). The first clone appears exactly after 30 sec into (pop time -> sumonning time) the fight which implies that a minimum of 6 real DDs (aka level 90+ empy monks with soulvoice ma/ma/min&haste) should bring ADL to ~zero% before it splits leaving you with pale copies of maybe 1% HP. This makes a setup of 6 MNK/WAR 1 BRD 1 SMN basically 100% win (baring dynamic implosion and death, the last one rarely happens).

    ADL has about 100k HP (it actually an upper bound since light is not appearing in log). A single monk does about 15.5k damage in the first 30 seconds before it splits. That means 4 monks leave it at ~35%-40% HP remaining and 6 monks leave it at ~7% HPs left.

    Also the next clone is not time based.
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    Even if it's on the same account, leveling and questing a mule for the sole purpose of defeating something that shouldn't require the effort is still too much to ask. Not at all in the realm of reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    [SIZE="6"]wheres the god damn video ?!?[/SIZE]
    Demonstration please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    This makes a setup of 6 MNK/WAR 1 BRD 1 SMN basically
    i'll just point out

    1 SMN for 6 DDs doesn't work you can only have 6 people in a party

    FFXI basics you can only fit 6 people in a party.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    100% win (baring dynamic implosion and death, the last one rarely happens)
    As a famous philosopher said....
    "They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works 100% of the time."

    either way baring all the lol stuff i'll help ya play BRD

    as for ma/ma/min

    if you mean madigral x 2 + min
    Then Min x 2 + Mad >>>>>>>> that (in soulvoice cause 1 acc song should cap you out then)

    if you mean march X 2 + Min

    you said you can take it too 1-0% in 30sec sooooooo why you casting haste songs because the job abilty hundred fists caps out haste for MNK and that last 45 secs

    Either way i think ya need to work out what acc does or how mnk/brd works either way yawn.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 02-13-2012 at 08:04 PM.
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    It only means the 5 will not get PD so what ? All you care about is that it bring ADL fast enough until it clones. Each monk as just about the time to do 2 WS before it splits, including the first intial 300 TP one, usuallly it ends up splitting right when you are about to WS for the third time, so yeah It works out the same because it can't possibly kill you the first 30 sec, as it is solo.



    Either way I'm going to help you play FFXI. 2x march caps your haste for 3+ minutes so yay go hide in corner, you are an idiot basically.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 02-13-2012 at 08:40 PM.

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    And again we witness another pchan gem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    I claim that a pimp out party of 6 players will destroy ADL to less than 25% before it splits
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    It only means the 5 will not get PD so what ? All you care about is that it bring ADL fast enough until it clones.
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    ADL has about 100k HP (it actually an upper bound since light is not appearing in log). A single monk does about 15.5k damage in the first 30 seconds before it splits.
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Either way I'm going to help you play FFXI. 2x march caps your haste for 3+ minutes so yay go hide in corner, you are an idiot basically.
    If ya take longer 60 sec PD will be pretty much gone meaning your saying that making the mnk do 100% more dmg for 1/4 of of the fight after it has cloned(if it lasts that long) where you want to do as much DMG as possible in the first 30 secs so the clones have low hp or dead is basically calling yourself wrong.

    Let just take 900 attack mnk (w/ SV Minuet V ) SV Min 4+3 in berserk adds (250 attack) which is roughly a 26% DMG increase

    So in 60 sec Min x 3 vs Ma/ma/min is equal but here's the point you made.

    If ya trying to do as much dmg in 30sec as possible so it won't spawn clones or spawn low hp clones

    w/ 126% DMG the clones will have less hp means your Marchx2 MNK sould have to deal 3 x more DMG once hundred fist were off and by this time you'll only have like 15-20 sec before PD is all but useless and ur gonna wipe so mathmatically useing march is dumb on hundred fist mnks.

    if ya replaced that mnk w/ a SCH then you could have capped haste after the hundred fists so you's have an increase in MNK dmg by 26% each meaning that one mnk that did it's 2 WS before dieing (why you didn't have a Ukons or mighty stikes resolution WAR/SAM here is i guess you havn't play anything but mnk) would be outperformed in that time after hundred fist(if ADL is still alive) hell even a THF for Fenit or a DRG for angon would be a better improvement most likly than a 6th unprotected MNK.

    either way mathematically your wrong and even in your own statements you prove ya self wrong haha.

    As a side side side side note 1 march + Min + min beats mar/mar/min in all cases when ya consider hundredfist in say a 90-180 sec fight.

    btw pchan i'm not saying your wrong about being able to kill ADL w/ 7 people all i'm saying is that way your doing is not the best way and i'm only trying to help you learn how to play mnk or brd.

    i'll leave it there not gonna respond on anything else posted ^^ thx pchan for making it one of the most viewed threads tho
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 02-13-2012 at 09:45 PM.
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    My god you are really bad. You don't know that between the summonning animation of adl and the time that you are disengaged and reengage is roughly 15 sec, at which point hunderd fists wears off you you don't kill shit anymore. You need your march to kill the clones dude. Finally you are capped on attack with

    dia2/berserk/impetus/red curry buns/minuet V so yeah, bullshit

    so congrats on your useless tripple minuet paired with "hunderd fists wear off" on the clones.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 02-13-2012 at 11:33 PM.

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    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
    still no video
    gtfo
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    where is yours?
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