Arch Dynamis lords difficultly.

[MarkovChain]

Are you sure or does it only "seems". It never poped more than 2 of the first split also it never did dynamis implosion until 1/30 into the fight for us so yeah... I think you guy do something wrong, way to many TP given for the damage you are doing.

[Soidisant]

I'm positive. If you had 30 seconds before cloning then you would be able to kill him before he cloned.

The amount of clones he summons varies based on the HP he clones at. So if you have only ever seen 2 clones, it's because he always clones for you above 40% ish.

Whilst our TP feed is going to be higher than yours purely because we don't only use MNK's, it doesn't really come into it when he decides to use Dynamic Implosion immediately after cloning. He can have zero TP on cloning and will still TP as soon as he repops. And it's not like he can only use Dynamic Implosion at low HP, I've seen him try use it (it got stunned) as the very first TP move of the fight.

Don't get me wrong, we do beat ADL (with the odd fail due to Implosion or unlucky Tera Slash). I'm just saying it is nowhere near as simplistic as you make out.

Atm as far as I'm concerned the best way to handle this fight is just brute force. If your DD's are good enough then you'll win more often than not but it won't change the fact that you need 2x PD per attempt. And even then ADL can and will occasionally completely screw you over with TP choice.

[MarkovChain]

I didn't say it's always 30 sec before it clones did you read ? I was asking until which % it is 30 sec, because as everyone has been explaining to Nynja and other BG rejects, ADL dies very fast so I know an ally of decent DD is going to rape it before 30 sec.

*Imo you should just allow DD to do one WS then back off let it split into two clones and assign 3 melees at least to each clone (if you do it in ally), but clearly that's not really the problem. How many clones on average are you seing ?

[Nynja]

or you could post this alleged video you have to show us how much we suck and how godly awesome youare

[Soidisant]

You did say 30 seconds earlier which is what I was going by.

We normally see 2 clones. As soon as we realised he spawns more clones at a lower % we changed our strat to hold back until after he clones.

Our current strat is basically

4x DD COR SMN
4x DD COR SMN
SCH SCH BLM BLM BRD/BLM/SMN BRD/BLM/SMN (Last two slots pending on how many people we have)

Give the 2 DD parties PD + Haste + Embrava + March/Min/Min/Scherzo (We know this is Haste overkill. It's in case he dispelgas some away)

Have the DD's hold back until he clones. Then 1 party on each clone with BLM's AoE nuking and tossing stun at their designated clone if its up. SMN's use the Ramuh stun BP.

And I don't think we'll be able to do much more than that unless something new is discovered about him or new strat is devised.

[Yinnyth]

I didn't say it's always 30 sec before it clones did you read ?

If you didn't, then someone has your account info and is making you look like a fool on the forums.

BAM!:

More good info on ADL (aka not one from BG nor its unverified wiki). The first clone appears exactly after 30 sec into (pop time -> sumonning time) the fight which implies that a minimum of 6 real DDs (aka level 90+ empy monks with soulvoice ma/ma/min&haste) should bring ADL to ~zero% before it splits leaving you with pale copies of maybe 1% HP. This makes a setup of 6 MNK/WAR 1 BRD 1 SMN basically 100% win (baring dynamic implosion and death, the last one rarely happens).

[MarkovChain]

Well then I have hopes that my ultimate setup allows you to kill 3 copies. Ideally I would use

* a BRD with daurdabla 90+ with a mule (same account) having MNK with 90+ empy leveled.
* a SMN with capped skill (for enfire and EA)
* 4 MNK/WAR with 90+ empy

1-The basic strat would be to have the BRD troubadour the song buffs then the melees hold the buff onto the ???
2-BRD logout then back in on his mnk mule
3-SMN PD everyone (at this point 5 mnks are buffed)
4-smn hastes everyone and mnks hold buffs
5-smn does the ifrit enfire move then EA 1 min later
6-mnk do impetus then berserk and hold
7-SMN does PD, pops and does dia2
8-bring to 40% with 1 WS per monk (=the initial one with 300 tps)
9- when it summons turn toward the grid to avoid being pulled back
at this point all monks have tp
10-2 mnks on one clone and then three others on the last one
11-hope for not getting implosioned

[MarkovChain]

If you didn't, then someone has your account info and is making you look like a fool on the forums.

BAM!:

BAM you clearly didn't notice the "before it splits part".

[Yinnyth]

Wow, that's some potent denial you have going there. Ok, I'll use the "before it splits part" instead.

ADL has about 100k HP (it actually an upper bound since light is not appearing in log). A single monk does about 15.5k damage in the first 30 seconds before it splits. That means 4 monks leave it at ~35%-40% HP remaining and 6 monks leave it at ~7% HPs left.

I didn't say it's always 30 sec before it clones

Actually, sir, you did indeed say that the clones appearing are time based, and the time before the clones appearing is indeed 30 seconds, which you now deny as fallacy, yet do not accept that you were the person who brought forth that fallacy on these forums. Such behavior is unbefitting a gentleman, if I do say so myself.

[MarkovChain]

Yes, I confirm what I said. The clones pop at exactly 30s unless you bring them to unknown amount of HP before that. You on the other hand are claiming they are not time based apparently.