[DEV1064] Tachi: Shoha

[Quetzacoatl]

Would you at least concede that for this to happen an awful lot needs to go right, not the least of which being lucky zanshins after you've already used Sekkanoki and nobody else WSing the mob you're attacking for a good 5-10 seconds (this will never happen)?

And even then, it still doesn't have anything to do with Konzen-Ittai being a big part of why SAM is good now and kind of sucking with Shoha?

I suppose I should. I better not see the game flooded with SAMs though, because I'm holding your word to it!

Lv99 content has ~300k HP bars, whereas the hardest back at Lv75 had 60k.

You're absolutely fucking retarded if you think we should do doing Lv75 damage numbers at Lv99.

I'm not asking for level 75 damage numbers >_>

Fine, if everyone's so adamant about not nerfing Shoha, then let's propose to at least boost the following Weapon Skills where they are on par with Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite:

Metatron Torment, Tachi: Kaiten, Final Heaven, Blade: Metsu, Onslaught, Knights of the Round, Mercy Stroke, Randgrith, Catastrophe, Scourge, Geirskogul, Namas Arrow, Quietus, Camlann's Torment, Torcleaver, Upheaval, Entropy, Shijin Spiral, Realmrazer, Ruinator.

Feel free to say which ones don't need a boost and which ones do.

[IronPandemonium]

your image macros and quasi-witty one liners are cute and all, but they're not really original, and I'm getting bored.

I'd say the same thing too if I was called out on being gimp as shit on all my jobs and had nothing else to back myself with afterward.

I'm not asking for level 75 damage numbers >_>

Fine, if everyone's so adamant about not nerfing Shoha, then let's propose to at least boost the following Weapon Skills where they are on par with Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite:

Metatron Torment, Tachi: Kaiten, Final Heaven, Blade: Metsu, Onslaught, Knights of the Round, Mercy Stroke, Randgrith, Catastrophe, Scourge, Geirskogul, Namas Arrow, Quietus, Camlann's Torment, Torcleaver, Upheaval, Entropy, Shijin Spiral, Realmrazer, Ruinator.

Feel free to say which ones don't need a boost and which ones do.

Much better.

[Theytak]

I'd say the same thing too if I was called out on being gimp as shit on all my jobs and had nothing else to back myself with afterward.



Much better.

Aside from the obviously out of date item sets you link (hai2uerlking's), you've not actually expressed that I might not be well geared. For that matter, when have I denied that my gear isn't full AF3+2donewithabysseagrindinglogwatchformonths quality? I haven't even played this game frequently since april. How does the fact that I don't have the time to play and the will to bother getting better gear for events I'm not going to do change the fact that I understand the mechanics and equations that make this game run better than 95% of the playerbase? Math's not hard.

[IronPandemonium]

Maybe you should stop posting here then and update your nearly-year-irrelevant gear and claims.

Seriously? That's it? You're not even going to point out which ones don't need to be boosted? Just like that?

You're not going to tell me how much of an Idiot I am for telling everyone that boosting ALL of those weapon skills to 4k-7K damage levels is just as retarded as nerfing Tachi: Shoha?

Well it's pretty clear that all of the relic weapon skills currently are horrid bar Mercy Stroke to some degree, and seeing how the bulk of your list is them at first glance, why should I disapprove of it in general.

I mean, looking at it again, Upheaval does pretty good as far as I've seen, as well as maybe Ruinator, but those aside, pointing out which ones are fine is entirely irrelevant anyways when you're going off the handle here, thinking Shoha doing 4k-7k outside Abyssea every time; even inside, 7k's pretty rare, whereas back at 90 Ukko's/Smite/Hi were doing that number pretty consistently.

[Theytak]

Maybe you should stop posting here then and update your nearly-year-irrelevant gear and claims.

yea, because the fact that I don't need to brag about how awesome my imaginary items are, and keep my lists of different set ups that I use updated every time I get a new piece of gear or else people will suddenly thing I'm not hardcore enough somehow impacts my understanding of simple math, and the way people work. Ok.

since when did gear = intelligence or understanding of the game? I enjoy playing with numbers, and people who don't enjoy having someone who does enjoy it to do it for them. That's how I've always handled it. The fact that I didn't have the time to devote to zerg my way through abyssea and now don't have any interest in grinding logwatch for gear with people I don't like doesn't change the fact that I post my opinions based on running numbers and knowing the way people play. (Are you enjoying the tears? You looked hungry)

[Quetzacoatl]

Much better.

Seriously? That's it? You're not even going to point out which ones don't need to be boosted? Just like that?

You're not going to tell me how much of an Idiot I am for telling everyone that boosting ALL of those weapon skills to 4k-7K damage levels is just as retarded as nerfing Tachi: Shoha?

[scaevola]

Seriously? That's it? You're not even going to point out which ones don't need to be boosted? Just like that?

here i can help

the following WSes do not need to be boosted:

-Quietus
-Scourge
-Entropy
-Torcleaver


otherwise buffs across the board

amidoinitrite

[Quetzacoatl]

here i can help

the following WSes do not need to be boosted:

Tachi:Shoha

otherwise buffs across the board

amidoinitrite

fixed that for you, lol

[FrankReynolds]

here i can help

the following WSes do not need to be boosted:

-Quietus
-Scourge
-Entropy
-Torcleaver


otherwise buffs across the board

amidoinitrite

LOL Now that more like it.