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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

    So you can indeed use multiple tails successively?

    Might be a silly question but I've been unable to find confirmation on this.


    fwiw my adventures in tutori-ing involved my LS leader wanting me to tank on MNK/NIN, so me demonstrating what a bad idea that was by running in, HFing, and WSing once before getting cuffed by Something+Howling=Liquefaction. I got him down to 70% by doing that, though, so yeah multiple tails really will make this a joke.
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.
    Problem with this is you can't do any damage while he's running around unless you bring ranged DD's (BLM/RNG/SCH). So while you can have him "running around" you yourself won't be doing much without those above jobs. They should of made two items, one being the "running around" and another just locking his WS's out. Honestly it wouldn't be bad if he didn't spam WS constantly and face rape everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Problem with this is you can't do any damage while he's running around unless you bring ranged DD's (BLM/RNG/SCH). So while you can have him "running around" you yourself won't be doing much without those above jobs. They should of made two items, one being the "running around" and another just locking his WS's out. Honestly it wouldn't be bad if he didn't spam WS constantly and face rape everyone.
    Ever heard of a thing called stun?
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    or using gravity and turning off lock-on

    I mean, yeah, melee might run into some problems landing weapon skills while he's running around but my biggest take-away from my one "attempt" is that he simply does not have enough health for that to matter.

    Perfect Defense is basically just another tail. MNK is really good because the mechanics of the fight happen to favor it (and MNK is, of course, really good regardless), but those mechanics are eliminated by tails.

    If using one gimmick to get your clear is not sufficiently practical for you, use the gimmick specifically designed for the fight.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 12-17-2011 at 12:46 AM.
    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HimuraKenshyn View Post
    Ever heard of a thing called stun?
    From what, the BLM or the /DRK peoples? If you have access to "stun" then you just nuke it anyway.

    The real point is that your WS will miss due to how server - client lag works. The monster is never where you see it, it's always one to three steps ahead and thus the client's targeting system will always be out of range when the monster is moving.
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    Should be pretty easy for pretty much any party-set up with 6 tails to win. I don't think its unreasonable to farm the necessary items given that it is the final LB. I wouldn't be surprised if most parties that have failed did not have a full set of tails. I'm a noob and I won!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    From what, the BLM or the /DRK peoples? If you have access to "stun" then you just nuke it anyway.

    The real point is that your WS will miss due to how server - client lag works. The monster is never where you see it, it's always one to three steps ahead and thus the client's targeting system will always be out of range when the monster is moving.
    It is actually possible at least normally to hit a target moving away from you, even with a WS, if you take the correct amount of steps past the target, as in picturing it going farther than it is. A few steps usually does it.

    That said, I still haven't actually seen how he moves exactly at that time, though, so if it's incredibly erratic, it would certainly make it difficult, more so than it needs to be.


    And by the by, does this thread really need to continue to become just about "who or what can do it and who can not"? ^^;
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    Player Dragoy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.
    I seem to remember the battle having a time limit of 10 minutes. ^^;

    I do wonder how long the effect actually is as I'm seeing everything from 30 seconds to 60 seconds and even up to 2 minutes! I'd imagine 30 seconds would be rather close to the truth... Oh well, I will get to try it out myself soon'ish. Either way, my Ninja will probably never recover from the humiliation.

    This is not how the battle should be, dang it! ·~·
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    ...or so the legend says.