SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Mirabelle]

I think people who call this an easy fight (when not being disingenuous because they used some gimmicky setup) aren't grasping the fact that a party fight is like a chain, and only as strong as its weakest link. I may be a great player who has good gear and didn't microwave my job through Abyssea leeching in a few days, but that doesn't matter unless the other 5 guys are too.

Also come on. It should be a challenge? Gimme a break. We're talking about breaking the level cap here, not getting a damn Mythic weapon. Maat is at least excusable because with him the entire success or failure of the fight is dependent upon you.

Agree with this post. I did this fight with LS mates and tried with a conventional setup of Healers, PLD tank, Support, DD and failed several times despite the group having good gear and knowing their jobs. Then decided to go to a setup of SMN, MNK, MNK, THF, BLU, WHM and used PD, hundred fists then olde rarab tail/sudden lunge to finish him off. Went 1/1 with the unconventional setup.
Can't see how a pickup group of average jobs is going to easily win this fight.

And the big problem with a group fight over a solo fight is that a few bad members will kill you in this fight whereas a solo fight means only you are responsible for the outcome.

In the end I see this eventually coming down to people getting merc'd through it by Alexander wielding SMN and a few MNKs as this seems to be the most consistent way to get a win. While there seems to be some other ways to beat him, the playerbase usually settles on the most reliable and it becomes very much like the ACP fight a few years back.

[Psxpert2011]

Maat took me 3 or 4 tries to beat. Each time I had to farm a new MNK testimony.

I think the greater failing with this fight is that it's not solo like Maat, so you gotta keep worrying about getting a new party.

Ah, the classic Maat fight. I wold of loved it if it was against Degenhart but it's about time SE did something different for the limit-break.

I'm glad it was such a fight as it is. Much better than some stupid "Collect X amount of item Y and shit an egg".

And people aren't going to quit over this. Not anybody we would miss anyways. If they didn't leave because of any of the previous REAL Genkai quests, they won't leave because of a beefed up Taru Maat.

True, so true!

The fight is fun, it's just a bit of a challenge, that's all. Have fun while you do it.

Haven't done it yet cuz I just started the farming part but looking forward to the fun! Oh, congrats incase you made the achievement!

^^*

I must admit. It's funny watching a NIN somehow get one shot at full HP with 5 shadows by Asuran Fists

Wish I could've saw that!

I'm just a little upset that there isn't a solo final fight.

If they did, it would be just as hard or harder. I would have to repeat someone's quote and say, "seperate the boys from the men" and approach final content in a mature way. If i don't have trouble getting pass this, there's not a thing to talk about or memories to cherish for days to come.

You guys really had to make the lvl 99 limit break this hard? really? i can tell yall this ppl are gonna quit casue of this watch and see hes too dang strong. You guys really better rethink this casue in 2months when we finaly do get done with him what yall do for the new comers? ever think bout that at this rate once ppl beat him they arnt gonna offer the new players help on it thus killin the games growth atleast lower this bcnm tarus power by atleast 20-30% so we can be done with it.

ROFL-LMAO!!! (noobs, go back to noob-school and get on the fail boat and go to failsville,lol...quoting Kalo from limit break radio, you guys still rock!)

[Greatguardian]

Boo freaking hoo.

If weak links are getting you killed, kick them and find stronger links. If you're a weak link yourself, have fun at level 95 or get started leveling a zerg job.

If you lose this fight 10 times in a row, think about what the common factor among all 10 of those fights is and then get back to me.

[Mirabelle]

Boo freaking hoo.

If weak links are getting you killed, kick them and find stronger links. If you're a weak link yourself, have fun at level 95 or get started leveling a zerg job.

If you lose this fight 10 times in a row, think about what the common factor among all 10 of those fights is and then get back to me.

I think this is what people will do. It will become a merc'd fight for those with average players as friends with non-ideal jobs, just like ACP was after a while.
And our group only lost 3 times in a row before we said, "screw convention and go with a better job strategy."

[scaevola]

I think people who call this an easy fight (when not being disingenuous because they used an Ochain) aren't grasping the fact that a party fight is like a chain, and only as strong as its weakest link.

ftfy

Not that I'm saying the fight is inappropriately difficult, but I would add my voice to the chorus pointing out that this is going to cause problems for late-comers almost immediately. Took all of three weeks IIRC for the new WoE model to effectively shut off fake Empyreans on Cerberus for anyone who didn't already have one, and I have every confidence SE will drag its feet in reducing the difficulty as quickly as it's probably going to need it.

Basically, the fight's fine right now but will probably be unwinnable by February, especially if getting help/lowmanning will involve getting multiple tails only some kind of asshole would expect friends to farm on their behalf. That's what you get for wanting to play Skyrim, nerds!

[xbobx]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

[scaevola]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

So you can indeed use multiple tails successively?

Might be a silly question but I've been unable to find confirmation on this.


fwiw my adventures in tutori-ing involved my LS leader wanting me to tank on MNK/NIN, so me demonstrating what a bad idea that was by running in, HFing, and WSing once before getting cuffed by Something+Howling=Liquefaction. I got him down to 70% by doing that, though, so yeah multiple tails really will make this a joke.

[saevel]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

Problem with this is you can't do any damage while he's running around unless you bring ranged DD's (BLM/RNG/SCH). So while you can have him "running around" you yourself won't be doing much without those above jobs. They should of made two items, one being the "running around" and another just locking his WS's out. Honestly it wouldn't be bad if he didn't spam WS constantly and face rape everyone.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Problem with this is you can't do any damage while he's running around unless you bring ranged DD's (BLM/RNG/SCH). So while you can have him "running around" you yourself won't be doing much without those above jobs. They should of made two items, one being the "running around" and another just locking his WS's out. Honestly it wouldn't be bad if he didn't spam WS constantly and face rape everyone.

Ever heard of a thing called stun?

[scaevola]

or using gravity and turning off lock-on

I mean, yeah, melee might run into some problems landing weapon skills while he's running around but my biggest take-away from my one "attempt" is that he simply does not have enough health for that to matter.

Perfect Defense is basically just another tail. MNK is really good because the mechanics of the fight happen to favor it (and MNK is, of course, really good regardless), but those mechanics are eliminated by tails.

If using one gimmick to get your clear is not sufficiently practical for you, use the gimmick specifically designed for the fight.