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  1. #771
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    Here's calling the compromise that's coming...

    Those WS will be required for the new VW procs. Maybe even the 101-500 climb proc. Why? Because there's no new content coming and they need to pad in as much time sink as possible in hope of ppl will get sick of 11 and move on to 14. The reality will be most ppl going to just give up on SE and drop 11 like a brick and ignore 14 altogether.
    Stop. They've already stated they weren't gonna be used as procs in ANYTHING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amador View Post
    Stop. They've already stated they weren't gonna be used as procs in ANYTHING.
    No, they said NOT all 'NEW' content will have proc system. Not no more proc in anything coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    No, they said NOT all 'NEW' content will have proc system. Not ALL.
    They said that not all upcoming endgame content will have proc systems, AND that merit weaponskills in particular would not be procs in those endgame activities that will have proc systems. Two different posts.
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    Correct. Yes, these WSs will for the most part be pointless. The good news is that you don't need to unlock them at all!! That's some silver lining...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Howdy all!

    I wanted to share some information on adjustments that will be made to some of the new weapon skills.
    Great Sword Weapon Skill “Resolution”
    We’re currently making adjustments so this weapon skill deals more damage to higher level enemies. We will be slightly weakening the effects of the TP damage modifier, but making it so the modifier won’t only be for the first hit as we’ll be changing it so that it’s for all 5 hits.
     
    Scythe Weapon Skill “Entropy”
    We will be making adjustments so that the amount of MP recovered will be within a range.
    There will be cases where the MP recovered will be higher or possibly lower than now, but we are planning to adjust this so that the average will not change by much.

    Katana Weapon Skill “Blade: Shun”
    We will be making adjustments to this weapon skill in the same way as those listed for “Resolution.”
    Also, as a side note, we don’t have any plans of adding these new weapon skills to the arsenal of enemy weakness exploits, so don’t not worry about picking which ones you would like to upgrade based on that.
    Here is the information that states they will not be used and you can get w/e you want. So, yes. Stop it.
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    Last edited by Amador; 12-14-2011 at 07:41 AM.

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    With today’s test server update we have implemented all the aforementioned adjustments.

    We plan on making adjustments as necessary after the version update takes place, so please try out the weapon skills with these adjustments and let us know your feedback.

    Also, with this update, you will need to place merit points into the new weapon skills you would like to use and you will need to fulfill the below requirements:

    -Level 96+
    Talk to the Mog House Moogle and set your level to 96+

    -Completion of the quest "Martial Mastery"
    1. Talk to the Mog House Moogle and obtain merit points
    2. Receive the quest “Martial Mastery“ from the Nomad Moogle in Ru’Lude Gardens
    3. Talk to the Nomad Moogle again and complete the quest.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    With today’s test server update we have implemented all the aforementioned adjustments.

    We plan on making adjustments as necessary after the version update takes place, so please try out the weapon skills with these adjustments and let us know your feedback so we can gimp anything useful you manage to use them for.

    Also, with this update, you will need to place merit points into the new weapon skills you would like to use and you will need to fulfill the below requirements:

    -Level 96+
    Talk to the Mog House Moogle and set your level to 96+

    -Completion of the quest "Martial Mastery"
    1. Talk to the Mog House Moogle and obtain merit points
    2. Receive the quest “Martial Mastery“ from the Nomad Moogle in Ru’Lude Gardens
    3. Talk to the Nomad Moogle again and complete the quest.
    Fixed it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Correct. Yes, these WSs will for the most part be pointless. The good news is that you don't need to unlock them at all!! That's some silver lining...
    I think that I personally will not waste my time with them.

    So everyone talks about how upset they are... but what are WE as a community going to do about it?
    If the dev team wont listen... and our outrage on the forums is written off as just silly outbursts... then how are we going to make them understand how bad this really is.

    I read that they put the moron from FFXIV in charge of XI ... maybe some strongly worded letters to the CEO/Office of the President of SE would bring the spot light back where it belongs. FFXI has been my home sense shortly after NA release and honestly I enjoy the game very much, and it saddens me that FFXI is now under the tyranny of a man that soiled SE's reputation by ignoring beta testers. so I know that the only reason for us to have these forums is to vent our frustrations and hope that maybe just maybe one day we will have our game back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant82 View Post
    I think that I personally will not waste my time with them.

    So everyone talks about how upset they are... but what are WE as a community going to do about it?
    If the dev team wont listen... and our outrage on the forums is written off as just silly outbursts... then how are we going to make them understand how bad this really is.

    I read that they put the moron from FFXIV in charge of XI ... maybe some strongly worded letters to the CEO/Office of the President of SE would bring the spot light back where it belongs. FFXI has been my home sense shortly after NA release and honestly I enjoy the game very much, and it saddens me that FFXI is now under the tyranny of a man that soiled SE's reputation by ignoring beta testers. so I know that the only reason for us to have these forums is to vent our frustrations and hope that maybe just maybe one day we will have our game back.
    lets all go to Japan, and Occupy SE headquarters. :P
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    I'm sorry to say this but, nobody really cares about testing nerfs unless to find out just how bad it gets. People'd have a general idea what to expect with nerfs to Realmrazer and Ruinator; similar to how Penta Thrust vs. Drakesbane works I'd guess at this point, so people should have a general idea already. As a WHM that's meleed and taken it seriously over the times, I could care less about testing a nerfed WS that I was LOOKING FORWARD to replacing Hexa spam for damage with. But I guess it's not surprising - if it does better consistently than Hexa (while Hexa can do better when the stars align), I'll take it. Critical hit WS's tend to shine more when you can... you know, actually crit decently. Abyssea is obviously an extreme example of this, but people tried gearing for DEX (dDEX and stuff) to improve critical hit weaponskills at level 75 - Raging Rush and Drakesbane, just to name a couple examples. Otherwise, it was possible for King's Justice and Penta Thrust to have similar averages, if not better averages.

    I'll probably personally re-test Resolution, the only WS I've cared about. Entropy = don't ever care unless I get a good way to use MP.
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    Last edited by Fredjan; 12-14-2011 at 08:59 AM. Reason: Clarity
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