Personal temper findings

[cidbahamut]

Consider this: You're a BRD, would you like it if they made your songs only single-cast... I think not.

Didn't Bards complain until they were blue in the mouth trying to get the ability to make songs single target via a JA?

Your point still stands, regardless.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Didn't Bards complain until they were blue in the mouth trying to get the ability to make songs single target via a JA?

Your point still stands, regardless.

Yeah, Yet we complain for AoE version and get told tough.

[Greatguardian]

2) Wrong! RDM's just for the most part hate cycles. If they wanted to make Temper Accessionable like people said from the introduction, it'd be perfect.

Consider this: You're a BRD, would you like it if they made your songs only single-cast... I think not.

Cycles are white noise. They don't bother me in the slightest. I'd love having single target castable Temper if it meant having more reason to actually break out my pimp hat.

What I do wish for is an update to yarnball that includes variables for AF3+2 and Composure, as it's essentially worthless when none of our buffs still last for lol3Minutes.

[saevel]

1.) Damage is not necessarily magical or physical. There's a special category called "no attribute" basically, which is not affected by weaknesses or resitances to any of the elemental or physical attributes. What we call "non-elemental damage" is really this "no attribute" damage. Atonement is a good example of this type of damage. Coincidentally, it's also a sword WS

2.) Temper will matter when it can either be used with Accession or cast on other players. It should have been able to be cast on other players to start with, but apparently RDMs would rather screw around with melee than have an actual job to do.

Umm no, not exactly. Your talking about Spirits Within and Atonement, both are considered magical and are blocked via any ability that blocks magic damage.

I'm talking about it using the physical WS calculation but have it's subtype set to none so as to bypass resistance to Slashing / Piercing / Blunt that some monsters have.

[ManaKing]

2.) Temper will matter when it can either be used with Accession or cast on other players. It should have been able to be cast on other players to start with, but apparently RDMs would rather screw around with melee than have an actual job to do.

RDMs don't have actual jobs. Just the ability to try their best and then be told they are inferior because their job is inferior. Temper is as irrelevant as RDM itself. At the end of the day COR has had AOE double attack buffs forever and RDM still doesn't know what it is good at because Aby trashed it and VW really doesn't have a place for it either that people respect.

[saevel]

RDMs don't have actual jobs. Just the ability to try their best and then be told they are inferior because their job is inferior. Temper is as irrelevant as RDM itself. At the end of the day COR has had AOE double attack buffs forever and RDM still doesn't know what it is good at because Aby trashed it and VW really doesn't have a place for it either that people respect.

Gotta love people say things like "do you job" but can't actually say what RDM's "job" is other then "anything not holding a sword". They will attempt to throw the "enfeebling" work out there but we've gone over that to death already. It takes a few seconds to apply the enfeebles that will stick (if that), and then your free for a couple of minutes.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Get back to helping cure/buff the DDs who are apparently dropping like flies and/or nuking.

[saevel]

Get back to helping cure/buff the DDs who are apparently dropping like flies and/or nuking.

Meleeing > Nuking for damage.

And with Cure IV spamming lolz.

Might as well come WHM instead if that's what your going to do.

[ManaKing]

Meleeing > Nuking for damage.

And with Cure IV spamming lolz.

Might as well come WHM instead if that's what your going to do.

Pretty much. RDM works fine for spot healing, but you really can't have a RDM heal unless you are talking about 2 RDMs instead of 1 WHM.

RDM are still tied to Tier IVs for Nukes. I haven't gotten my Twilight Cloak to drop yet to try out Impact on my RDM, but it's the only thing we could possibly have that would compete with an Almace. With Spontaneity and Convert, you could actually get Impact off relatively quickly without worry to hard about your MP reserves. Casting Impact back to back doesn't make a lot of sense because you'd want to ride the timer on the Stat Down Debuff unless Impact can do significantly more damage outside of aby than I've seen.

[Neisan_Quetz]

If you're free for a couple of minutes on the only event you'd use Rdm in because it has unique procs, well it's not my fault your DD are dying while you're too busy to cure them now is it?