Personal temper findings

[Greatguardian]

120 delay or 2.033898 seconds

[Byrth]

I am pretty much done with this. It should be possible to get 21% Double Attack from Temper at 99 with a perfect enhancing magic set. You can almost get 22% (2 skill off) but you can't yet (outside of Abyssea), I think. The data is on the talk page.

[saevel]

I am pretty much done with this. It should be possible to get 21% Double Attack from Temper at 99 with a perfect enhancing magic set. You can almost get 22% (2 skill off) but you can't yet (outside of Abyssea), I think. The data is on the talk page.

Have they done any testing over at BG on the new sword WS yet? I know they've been doing the others but I haven't seen anyone post any actual testing results from the sword. Asking because if it's like Shun then we can try to see if SE is willing to fix it.

[SpankWustler]

Have they done any testing over at BG on the new sword WS yet? I know they've been doing the others but I haven't seen anyone post any actual testing results from the sword. Asking because if it's like Shun then we can try to see if SE is willing to fix it.

To paraphrase and condense stuff Prothescar learned and posted while testing it:

The attack penalty isn't as steep as that of Blade: Shun or Resolution, but there's definitely one present. It seems the penalty is about 20% at 100% TP and it never quite goes away even at 300% TP. That's right. The weaponskill never has an actual attack bonus.

I have my doubts that the Development Bros will consider adjusting it, since they probably consider the ability to use Requiscat well on elementals or slimes to be mind-blowing. They also consider White-Out and toner to be a hidden sixth food group. Can't hurt to ask, though!

[saevel]

To paraphrase and condense stuff Prothescar learned and posted while testing it:

The attack penalty isn't as steep as that of Blade: Shun or Resolution, but there's definitely one present. It seems the penalty is about 20% at 100% TP and it never quite goes away even at 300% TP. That's right. The weaponskill never has an actual attack bonus.

I have my doubts that the Development Bros will consider adjusting it, since they probably consider the ability to use Requiscat well on elementals or slimes to be mind-blowing. They also consider White-Out and toner to be a hidden sixth food group. Can't hurt to ask, though!

Ele's and slimes? Thought it was a physical damage WS. If it's using attack/defense, accuracy and fSTR then it pretty much sounds like a physical WS.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Doesn't seem as heavily affected by damage resistance if at all, still not very useful due to the attack penalty.

Of course they're probably going to respond with 'balance'.

[scaevola]

Unless I missed something it seems like it'd be pretty great for Pil if it's really straight non-type damage like Twilight Scythe, to the extent that people will still be doing Pil.

[Greatguardian]

2 Cors can still knock out Pil's shield instantly without ever getting into melee range, and while still contributing god-tier buffs and A-tier damage, so tossing a sword user (any of them) in to WS down the shield is extremely redundant and inefficient.

I've never lost a Pil parse on COR yet.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Ele's and slimes? Thought it was a physical damage WS. If it's using attack/defense, accuracy and fSTR then it pretty much sounds like a physical WS.

Isn't it called as a non-elemental WS, as opposed to Physical.

[Seriha]

I guess I want to say it's disingenuous to say the WS has an ATK bonus when it starts with a penalty that never goes away. Hearing things like DRKs need 1200+ ATK to cap out their own has me shaking my head at the thought of respectably breaking 600 with food and some ATK/ACC/MND hybrid thing going on, Berserk, LR, and atmas aside. I'm not usually one to whine about the differences between one and two-handers, but just seems like this penalty should be there.