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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Probably. the MP recovery is nice, but they don't really give a rats behind how much it gives back. All they want is more damage. DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE. IM A DARK KNIGHT I KILL THINGS RAAAWR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Probably. the MP recovery is nice, but they don't really give a rats behind how much it gives back. All they want is more damage. DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE. IM A DARK KNIGHT I KILL THINGS RAAAWR
    Go get a great sword then. It's obvious that the dev team has decided that Great Sword=pure damage and Scythe = damage + additional effects and that they aren't going to change their minds on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeroe View Post
    Oh Boy! Now I can suck even harder at dark knight! Ty SE... Do you even read the forums???
    They read the JP forums. They don't give a rats ass what we think, or haven't you been paying attention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soidisant View Post
    Why on earth do SE hate DRK so much? It's like they don't even listen to us.
    It is not "like" they don't listen to you, it is that they don't listen to you. The thread on BST pets where they ignored the NAs and went with the JP's choices should have hammered that point home already.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 12-08-2011 at 08:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post


    They read the JP forums. They don't give a rats ass what we think, or haven't you been paying attention?



    It is not "like" they don't listen to you, it is that they don't listen to you. The thread on beast pets where they ignored the NAs and went with the JP's choices should have hammered that point home already.
    Someone should really make a dummy account, and just go copy paste every NA thread into Google translate, and then re-post it in the JP forum. It would be interesting to see if they got responses.
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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Someone should really make a dummy account, and just go copy paste every NA thread into Google translate, and then re-post it in the JP forum. It would be interesting to see if they got responses.
    Wouldn't make any difference, they only care what the JPs want because JPs make up the largest number of FFXI's subscribers. So they will always cater to what they want. Sucks for us but it does make business sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Someone should really make a dummy account, and just go copy paste every NA thread into Google translate, and then re-post it in the JP forum. It would be interesting to see if they got responses.
    The JPs also complain about the Entropy announcement in this thread here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...83%BC%E3%83%90. They are more focused on Resolution ftp discussion, but also making comments about MP is never a problem about scythe, it's the lack of choice after a level 60s WS.
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    Last edited by Zephyrtaru; 12-08-2011 at 12:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
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    They read the JP forums. They don't give a rats ass what we think, or haven't you been paying attention?
    It is not "like" they don't listen to you, it is that they don't listen to you. The thread on beast pets where they ignored the NAs and went with the JP's choices should have hammered that point home already.
    Voicing our opinion with our wallet is the only way they will LISTEN to the NA market needs and opinions. Otherwise they will keep ignoring us - with the gaming market becoming more and more global and competition is getting fierce - this is something that they cannot sit idle on their laurels. They must take actions to win their paying clients - and stop acting like they know everything and we just have to take it as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    Also, I'm just gonna throw this out there; if you want to make any of the ws a poor choice, nerf Tachi: Shoha. Sam doesn't need ANOTHER reason tacked on to the always growing list of why it's too strong. (seriously camate, tell the devs that samurai is just way to strong compared to the other jobs when you're not looking at equally geared relic/mythic/empyrean weapon holders who got insanely lucky with the horribad voidwatch drop system)
    This one isn't going to change because it's a cultural thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Voicing our opinion with our wallet is the only way they will LISTEN to the NA market needs and opinions. Otherwise they will keep ignoring us - with the gaming market becoming more and more global and competition is getting fierce - this is something that they cannot sit idle on their laurels. They must take actions to win their paying clients - and stop acting like they know everything and we just have to take it as it is.
    Problem is that a lot of what we want is mutually exclusive to what the JPs want. So they have to choose one or the other. And because most of FFXI's subscribers are in japan they will go with what the JPs want.

    Now if this game actually had a chance at becoming big internationally maybe it would make sense for them to pay more attention to us, but at this point in the game's life it doesn't.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 12-08-2011 at 08:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    This one isn't going to change because it's a cultural thing.



    Problem is that a lot of what we want is mutually exclusive to what the JPs want. So they have to choose one or the other. And because most of FFXI's subscribers are in japan they will go with what the JPs want.

    Now if this game actually had a chance at becoming big internationally maybe it would make sense for them to pay more attention to us, but at this point in the game's life it doesn't.
    Do the Japanese DRKs really want a weapon skill that returns magic over a high damage ws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    Do the Japanese DRKs really want a weapon skill that returns magic over a high damage ws?
    I feel like it would be extremely racist to assume that the JP player base is that crazy. Unless they know something that we don't about SEs plans for Dark Knight magic.
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    We have no reason to believe the JPN player base is any happier about this Entropy update, or DRK in general. SE doesn't listen to anyone most of the time which is ironic considering they created this forum specifically for feedback.
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