[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Byrth]

I think it's technically more correct to call it an attack bonus similar to YGK, but yeah. SE seems content to keep DRK's DD power relatively lower on the grounds that they can cast Stun.

You guys want to hear a funny joke? Okay.

What's 5 fTP and 60% VIT mod? - DRK's best Scythe/GS WS, Torcleaver.
What's 5 fTP and 100% VIT mod? - DRK's best WS, Upheaval.

Harharharharharharharharharharharharharharhar etc.

[SpankWustler]

The more I learn about these new weaponskills, the less and less it bothers me that I can only merit 3 of them.

At this point, I suspect only two or three will be found to not have massive attack penalties, <1 fTP values on additional hits, or some other penalty no one has even fathomed yet.

What are the chances that Ruinator has a considerable accuracy penalty? It would go along with the theme established by the attack penalties thus far, but it seems like an accuracy penalty of any amount would be easy to notice.

[Karbuncle]

Indeed, I've already determined i'll probably merit Dagger, Staff, and ... IDK..

Dagger? = I love THF

Staff? = Cause i can

Last one I'm up in the air, I literally have 1 job that can use each and every WS... Any suggestions? my favorite of the jobs left over would likely be BST, PLD, WAR, MNK, and PUP

[Arcon]

Last one I'm up in the air, I literally have 1 job that can use each and every WS... Any suggestions? my favorite of the jobs left over would likely be BST, PLD, WAR, MNK, and PUP

Requiescat, because it has an awesome name.

What's 5 fTP and 60% VIT mod? - DRK's best Scythe/GS WS, Torcleaver.
What's 5 fTP and 100% VIT mod? - DRK's best WS, Upheaval.

Harharharharharharharharharharharharharharhar etc.

I laughed. Hard. Then I realized Upheaval was VIT modded. Then I cried.

[Kaizersan]

Gun is 4.0-4.5 fTP 100% AGI stacked against 5.5 fTP 60% AGI. It's a solid competitor/alternative to Wildfire, but I wouldn't say it crushes it. Armageddon gets ODD too.

Being a COR that has a 85 Armageddon Last Stand does come in handy for when you are facing mobs that have heavy magic resistance or fire resistance but from testing it on the test server I was able to pull close to Wildfire numbers but to do so you can't sub RDM so it slightly gimps your Wildfire damage.

[Feliciaa]

Wildfire also generates less enmity but like you guys have said, the new WS would be great for things with high magic resist, fire resist, or low physical DEF.

[Theytak]

The blatant SAM favoritism has really gotten over the top.

lol, the blatant sam favoritism has been over the top ever since the 2h update.

The more I learn about these new weaponskills, the less and less it bothers me that I can only merit 3 of them.

At this point, I suspect only two or three will be found to not have massive attack penalties, <1 fTP values on additional hits, or some other penalty no one has even fathomed yet.

What are the chances that Ruinator has a considerable accuracy penalty? It would go along with the theme established by the attack penalties thus far, but it seems like an accuracy penalty of any amount would be easy to notice.

oh god, don't say something like that. Ruinator is one of the few remaining gems of these WS for me, given that upheaval has a%^@#%^@ing VIT mod and people can't decide whether Shijin Spiral is on par with Asuran, better than pummel, or just general suck. If my AWESOMEGALKAFLIPWS has @%@#%@^ing acc penalty, I'm gonna give up.

[hiko]

lol, the blatant sam favoritism has been over the top ever since the 2h update.

sam favoritism went away whith lvl cap increase and abyssea (sekanoki lowered so everyjob can get it as sub, lack of crit ws, not lot proc)

now it come back even stronger with shoha and apex arrow .

[Dragoy]

I think it's technically more correct to call it an attack bonus similar to YGK

They actually mentioned that they ignore defence, which I imagine might have a similar effect to an attack bonus? I could be wrong, and it could have been a mistake in translation or/from the developers but eh, felt like mentioning it. ^^;

[Byrth]

Ignoring defense and adding attack end up being functionally the same when you take the ratio. Saying that it adds or subtracts Ratio implies that it's happening after "Ratio" is calculated, which means after it is capped. It happens before it's capped, so it is modifying Attack or Defense.