[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Dawnn]

• Scythe Weapon Skill “Entropy”
We will be making adjustments so that the amount of MP recovered will be within a range.
There will be cases where the MP recovered will be higher or possibly lower than now, but we are planning to adjust this so that the average will not change by much.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU SE?!

[Kaizersan]

Just remember Tanaka knows better then you do on how powerful your ws need to be keep at it and he will lower the damage more to increase the mp you get back.

[Theytak]

So far they didn't with Tachi:Awesome for Sam with GK. never fails lol

Which one? Tachi: Geksome, Tachi: Kaweshome, Tachi: Kaiwesome, Tachi: Fuwesome, or Tachi: Showesome? or Tachi: Situationallyrawesome? Or Tachi: Surprisinglypowerfulforalevel49wsjinpusome?

There is no "3 WS per character" limit. You can get more if you don't maximize the mods (even at level 1, they still have some stat modifier- 32% including the base)

Not a single one of the merit ws has absolutely any worth if used with only 1 merit. You may as well just use something like One Inch Punch over Victory Smite or Iron Tempest over Raging Rush. A few of them are useable at 4 merits, but most require 5 merits to even be competitive. At level 1, THEY ALL SUCK. It's 3 ws per character max, and trying to argue that it's not is just stupid, I'm sorry.

You can't be the best at everything. The WHOLE FARKING POINT of the merit system is speccing your character so that one person who plays MNK (example) is different from another person who plays MNK in more ways than gear.
People ask for specizlization options.
SE grants specialization options.
People subesequently complain they can't upgrade everything.
SE removes specialization options?
Profit?

FFXI's character customization is very limited compared to many MMOs. What you're asking for is basically the same as people in WoW asking to be able to max out all three Talent trees. They were created that way for a reason: to give you choices to make.

HOWEVER: I would not be against them making it less difficult to change no-longer-wanted merits- for instance, giving back half the merits spent (full refund for 1 point merits) and freely reallocating, or fully refunding merits and placing a cooldown on merit removals.

I would like to point out that I did not say "Give everyone the ability to merit all 14 ws to 5/5" though given the massive merit requirement for the ws, I don't personally feel that it's unreasonable. The thing is that these WS should never have used merits as their method of attainment in the first place. It was an absolutely horrendous idea and in implementation, is even worse than on paper.

The JPs also complain about the Entropy announcement in this thread here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...83%BC%E3%83%90. They are more focused on Resolution ftp discussion, but also making comments about MP is never a problem about scythe, it's the lack of choice after a level 60s WS.

Wait, the JP and NA communities AGREE on something? and SE STILL ignored it?

You guys may as well give up on entropy.

[Kincard]

Wait, the JP and NA communities AGREE on something? and SE STILL ignored it?

You guys may as well give up on entropy.

Contrary to what a lot of people across a bunch of the English XI boards think, the JP and EN communities agree on things concerned with game mechanics pretty often, because there's plenty of hardcore players on the other side that also know how the game works.

Even with the BST pet thing, even though both communities ended up choosing different pets, both really wanted the same thing: Something to fill one of the blind spots in the versatility within BST pets.

[Finuve]

SE...boost quietus

[Tohihroyu]

Well the only way they will make Entropy stronger besides "lol Spirit Taker for Scythes" is if the Japanese player base says they want Entropy to hit harder. Just like everything else. Big example? the new bst jugs :|

[Seriha]

While not mentioned in Camate's info, seems like Requiescat also has its own ATK penalty and while the WS itself states that additional TP boosts its ATK, these values don't seem to exceed the penalty. Seeing PLDs, BLUs, or RDMs running around with the 1000+ ATK needed to cap out on higher end prey isn't going to be a common happening, especially if trying to balance ACC/ATK/MND on gear that rarely comes in such combinations. If this is some cheeky plan to try and get people to double Minuet with Chaos Roll, it's not gonna work since people would rather WS more frequently with Marches and other COR options. And as a one-handed WS, it just feels like a bit of a low blow to begin with.

[Bayohne]

After testing, we concluded that there is a need to lower the damage dealt by the club weapon skill Realmrazer. We'll be making adjustments so that Realmrazer is the strongest club weapon skill for jobs that cannot learn Hexa Strike.

We also concluded that there is no need to increase the damage dealt by the H2H weapon skill Shijin Spiral and the sword weapon skill Requiescat. (The adjustments for the katana and great sword weapon skills were made to fix the difficulty of dealing damage against stronger opponents.)

Shijin Spiral has an attack boost effect, so it can effectively deal damage to stronger opponents. Thus, we decided that there was no need for adjustment. Also, please keep in mind that its modifiers are DEX and not STR.

Since Requiescat has no element, it’s an effective weapon skill against monsters that are immune to physical attacks. Considering that players can use attack boosts and double attack effects to enhance damage (edited at 12:28pm PST), we decided that an adjustment was unnecessary.

We’ll make the above adjustments in the next version update and will look into implementing further adjustments following the version update as necessary.

[FrankReynolds]

After testing, we concluded that there is a need to lower the damage dealt by the club weapon skill Realmrazer. We'll be making adjustments so that Realmrazer is the strongest club weapon skill for jobs that cannot learn Hexa Strike.

We also concluded that there is no need to increase the damage dealt by the H2H weapon skill Shijin Spiral and the sword weapon skill Requiescat. (The adjustments for the katana and great sword weapon skills were made to fix the difficulty of dealing damage against stronger opponents.)

Shijin Spiral has an attack boost effect, so it can effectively deal damage to stronger opponents. Thus, we decided that there was no need for adjustment. Also, please keep in mind that its modifiers are DEX and not STR.

Since Requiescat has no element, it’s an effective weapon skill against monsters that are immune to physical attacks. Considering that it has an attack boost and double attack effects, we decided that an adjustment was unnecessary.

We’ll make the above adjustments in the next version update and will look into implementing further adjustments following the version update as necessary.

Blah! Make some changes to Scythe before the darks get all mid-evil on you guys. :P

[Prothscar]

Since Requiescat has no element, it’s an effective weapon skill against monsters that are immune to physical attacks. Considering that it has an attack boost and double attack effects, we decided that an adjustment was unnecessary.

On the contrary, according to my testing Requiescat receives an attack penalty at 100, 200, and 300 TP. Is this a bug? Or are you saying that the attack bonus is just a less potent attack penalty as TP increases?

As for double attack effect... uh? Every weaponskill under 8 hits gets to make use of double attack, unless you're implying that Requiescat receives additional chances at double attacking or has a native chance to double attack...