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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Correct and thanks for posting that. 25% slow + is gear is still swinging slower than somebody not wearing slow or haste gear, which does not make it the same. Just... sayin'.
    And 0% Haste gear is still slower than 25% haste gear, which does make it the same. If you're saying that the difference between 25% haste and 25% slow is larger than the difference between 25% haste and 0% haste, you are absolutely correct. However, they both still constitute massive losses in damage. It's like saying getting a 50 on an exam is better than getting a 30 on an exam, when others are trying to say it would be better to just get a 90 on the exam.
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    25% slow vs 0% haste/slow = 0% haste/slow vs 25% haste
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    And 0% Haste gear is still slower than 25% haste gear, which does make it the same. If you're saying that the difference between 25% haste and 25% slow is larger than the difference between 25% haste and 0% haste, you are absolutely correct. However, they both still constitute massive losses in damage. It's like saying getting a 50 on an exam is better than getting a 30 on an exam, when others are trying to say it would be better to just get a 90 on the exam.
    well, that is true. I can't remember if it was this thread or another, but I really am not bothered by being outperformed by other players who are haste geared. I'm just bothered by that hop, skip, jump thinking you mentioned before.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    well, that is true. I can't remember if it was this thread or another, but I really am not bothered by being outperformed by other players who are haste geared. I'm just bothered by that hop, skip, jump thinking you mentioned before.
    I think what gets people is that unwillingness to improve one self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepharite View Post
    I think what gets people is that unwillingness to improve one self.
    I don't get why they care so much that I'm not improving into the kind of player they think I should be.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I don't get why they care so much that I'm not improving into the kind of player they think I should be.
    It comes off as lazy, people don't like lazy people. I dunno.
    Everytime I see a poorly geared person I wonder if they don't know any better, are lazy, or just don't care.
    I do worry that new people will look at said poorly geared lv90 and start gearing that way as well.
    The current skill level and understanding of game mechanics by the current playerbase is already not where it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I don't get why they care so much that I'm not improving into the kind of player they think I should be.
    Your maximum potential is their maximum potential when you're in their party. Weakest link, etc.
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    It's not really that, more like nobody cares what you personally wear unless it affects them. Ie:

    If you party with someone wearing bad choices of equipment, you infringe on THEIR time and they will probably complain.
    If you claim X is > than Y if in truth Y is > X then you will be corrected, further contradiction will cause people to bash you
    Edit: Misinforming players with poor knowledge about the game, nobody likes seeing this

    Remember, it's a community game, if your "playstyle" hinders another player, they will let you know.
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    Last edited by Darka; 03-15-2011 at 07:26 AM. Reason: Adding points


    Dear SE, can my character be black? I find this pro-white to be offensive.

  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darka View Post
    It's not really that, more like nobody cares what you personally wear unless it affects them. Ie:

    If you party with someone wearing bad choices of equipment, you infringe on THEIR time and they will probably complain.
    If you claim X is > than Y if in truth Y is > X then you will be corrected, further contradiction will cause people to bash you

    Remember, it's a community game, if your "playstyle" hinders another player, they will let you know.
    Ok, (to both you and Vinc)... but I don't think I play on the same server as any of them (except Cream_Soda). So... it's not like their personal game play is affected by me.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Ok, (to both you and Vinc)... but I don't think I play on the same server as any of them (except Cream_Soda). So... it's not like their personal game play is affected by me.
    I doubt it's so much that they are personally being infringed upon, but that they worry that your comments will move other people to do things that would infringe upon them. To keep the metaphor going, it would be like being in a study session and having someone say "You only need to get a 70 to pass the test, I'm fine with passing" when other people are trying to help others get A's. Of course the tutors are going to be upset about it. It doesn't bother them if you choose to get a 70 on your exam and be okay with passing, but it does bother them when you talk about it in front of other students who may then decide that it's okay to get a 70 instead of studying and getting an A.
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