Stop Player Bashing

[Amerlyn]

I've seen several post already where someone has posted something (a suggestion) and a more Skilled player has decided it was a good idea to bash the player for his/her inabilities.

This forum was started for general game discussions/suggestions. Not meant to demean a player for his/her thoughts. You either agree with them or you don't. No need to make yourself feel big because you can do something another player can't by telling them how pathetic they are.

I really don't think SE started this site to read about how good you are and see how much you rub it in to those who can't. I'm pretty sure they started this site so people can give they're suggestions to things they think need to be changed. Idea to improve game play. Pass on your knowledge and skill to inexperienced players. Not constantly bash them.

So please. Keep it polite. Try to stay on topic. If you agree, but want to add something to the idea to make it better, do so. If you disagree with it, disagree and explain why the CHANGE wouldn't increase game play, but keep it civil to other players and stop bashing them b/c they are having difficulties with something.

[Arcon]

Can't agree more with this. Even if some ideas don't make sense to you, present reasons why it shouldn't be added/changed and keep it at that. Several times I've heard people being called "whining noobs" and worse when they were neither whining or noobs or worse.

In fact I would appreciate if moderators could keep an eye out on "aggressive" posters, quite a few have surfaced already. People who deliberately walk the fine line of not actually breaking the rules are just as bad as the people who occasionally do. They intimidate many nice players who then are too scared to post suggestions 'cause they fear being bashed and made fun of. And I'm pretty sure that's not what these forums where intended for.

[Amerlyn]

This rule is actually mentioned in the "Sticky: Welcome to Forum: General Discussion!" that only has 200+ views.

[JagerForrester]

I hope I haven't crossed that line. There has been a few times I've read a suggestion thread today, and don't agree with it. I'll freely give my opinion on it, tell you why I think it works or don't works. And I'll continue to back up my response with understanding until convinced to change my opinion.

And what I haven't tolerated in suggestion threads is the excuse of PS2 limitations. We all know it's a problem, so we don't need hundreds of players disagreeing to an idea because there's not enough space to do it. It's a true, but meaningless argument to say we don't have the space to do it. What's the point of making suggestions the excuse is always no space?

All players are allowed to throw their suggestions out there, and shouldn't fear of it being bashed to the point it's a horrible idea and it hurts the OP's and the supporters' feelings.

[Amerlyn]

I haven't seen any problem with your posts JagerForrester. I've agreed with the posts you've typed so far. And I do agree PS2 Limitations shouldn't be an excuse for agreeing or disagreeing to a post. You can still agree/disagree to a post even if it won't directly effect you (One day it may - may get a new system or something). If they have an issue with ps2 limitations it should be placed and discussed in a thread about ps2 limitations.

On that note: There is also a rule in the same sticky about staying on topic. So please if anyone has a problem with something don't bring it up in EVERY thread you visit. Search and see if there is already a thread about that issue and post it there. If there isn't one already, make one. This is also a part of the rule I just mentioned. It helps prevent confusion and keeps people on topic.

[Naturebeckles]

I've seen several post already where someone has posted something (a suggestion) and a more Skilled player has decided it was a good idea to bash the player for his/her inabilities.

This forum was started for general game discussions/suggestions. Not meant to demean a player for his/her thoughts. You either agree with them or you don't. No need to make yourself feel big because you can do something another player can't by telling them how pathetic they are.

I really don't think SE started this site to read about how good you are and see how much you rub it in to those who can't. I'm pretty sure they started this site so people can give they're suggestions to things they think need to be changed. Idea to improve game play. Pass on your knowledge and skill to inexperienced players. Not constantly bash them.

So please. Keep it polite. Try to stay on topic. If you agree, but want to add something to the idea to make it better, do so. If you disagree with it, disagree and explain why the CHANGE wouldn't increase game play, but keep it civil to other players and stop bashing them b/c they are having difficulties with something.

I don't think it's going to stop simply because the people who player bash on these forums are also doing it in the game and I don't think their attitude is going to change. Don't mean to be pessimistic... but I'm just sayin'

[SNK]

I don't think it's going to stop simply because the people who player bash on these forums are also doing it in the game and I don't think their attitude is going to change. Don't mean to be pessimistic... but I'm just sayin'

This in a nutshell. If people constantly post stupid crap and try to say they're right even tho other people have told them they're wrong, *Black Belt vs Twilight Belt Thread for example* then they're going to get what's coming to them.

[Frost]

Please know that disagreeing, and/or pointing out flaw in logic, and/or giving an alternative perspective is NOT player bashing, it's having a discussion.

[Amerlyn]

I'm sure it won't stop just because I've said something. I'm just pointing out the rules in hopes that some of the people bashing might quiet it down and attempt to respect other players. I really don't want to see this forum turning into another 4-chan, where everyone bashes people just to get a kick off from it. Then feeds off the drama it causes. I really hope the moderators can keep up on here so it doesn't come to that point. This forum should feel safe to players. A place to learn and help. Not a place simply to boost ones ego and create drama. This is merely my opinion and also seems to me what SE is pushing for according to they're rules. I just hope they can back it up.

[Amerlyn]

Please know that disagreeing, and/or pointing out flaw in logic, and/or giving an alternative perspective is NOT player bashing, it's having a discussion.

Agreed, but name calling and demeaning a player is bashing which is what I have been seeing. I have never said disagreeing was player bashing. I just said it should be kept polite. A discussion can be done w/out bashing another player.