Stage2 Ochain/Daudarbla

[wish12oz]

Ochain wat ? PLD is garbage. Cure VI say hi, monks got 4K HP if they try.

This doesn't make any sense.
Could you at least provide context for your statements? Why does MNK having 4k HP in HP gear matter? It's not like they could hold hate using that. And cure 6? Why does cure 6 matter? Are you going to spam cure 6 on the MNK who isn't holding hate in his HP gear?

[MarkovChain]

It's not like they could hold hate using that.

Why ? Daurdabla x 2 double march double madrigal sherzo mambo, earthen armor, goodbye.

[Jeffil]

Ok i'm also close to finishing this trial (souls). We have one T3 abyssite left and 2 souls to go. Very likely i'm gonna have to ask a friend to use/buy one of their T3 pops because i'm that sick of upgrading T2s.

I've mentioned in other threads that T1 to T2 is NOT an "issue". Yeah it can take a while some times. I eventually just found it humorous when it would take me 20+ kills.

But for the past month and a half, I have been going out to zones with my lsmates to upgrade T2 abyssites all the while negotiating with other groups who were there for seals (or color ups). I can go solo Koios during off peak server hours if nobody was there (I would not solo with a group there out of courtesy if they were there coloring up - I would just ask they let me know when they were done). I can solo Chione with temps but only did that a couple of times when there was no competition (oddly enough I colored up both times to T3).

Sometimes I would be doing these VNM every 10-15 minutes and not get a color up for 3 or 4 hours. Those were definitely the most annoying times. Whenever I had to go back to town without any T3 pops added to the stock I was frustrated.

I pretty much have for the past 40-45 days gone to color up T2 abyssites for like 75% of my play time. Thankfully my linkshell has been super awesome at helping me color up in all three zones. If it wasn't for them I would probably not even be halfway done with souls.

I think it also helped me that I am doing the souls chiefly first. Since it is the hardest trial, I figured it would make the Iron Giants and Azdajas go by that much quicker.

Also to address the assumption that you would require 75 Brulo or Maere kills to get 75 souls - they won't ALWAYS single drop. Actually we got Brulo to double drop 10 times out of 27. Maere however was much more stingy, double dropping only once out of 11 pops. The other 24 souls came from Ogo - and even he single dropped on us a few times.

If I could add one suggestion regarding the T3 VNM - could it be possible to make them have alliance hate when they are popped? We were fortunate to have this happen to us only once, but one member popped Ogopogo then took a Waterga IV to the face. He ended up dying and Ogo depopped. And yeah someone should've done something to Ogo to not cause him to depop, but still given that you lose the Abyssite immediately when you pop him, it sucks to see a few hours worth of work (the pop) disappear like that.

[wish12oz]

Why ? Daurdabla x 2 double march double madrigal sherzo mambo, earthen armor, goodbye.

So you want a smn, and 2 brds in your tank party so you can tank on MNK? MNK MNK BRD BRD SMN is 5 slots, seems way more effective to just have 2 PLDS and not require all this extra crap.

The whole point to using MNKs to begin with is to make it easier right? This thread is about how hard it is to farm ochain, and durblahblahblah requires the same 75 colorless souls. So saying you shouldnt get an ochain to tank cause you can just do double the work and have 2 brds and tank on MNK and thats better is just kind of....

[Aeonk]

So you want a smn, and 2 brds in your tank party so you can tank on MNK? MNK MNK BRD BRD SMN is 5 slots, seems way more effective to just have 2 PLDS and not require all this extra crap.

The whole point to using MNKs to begin with is to make it easier right? This thread is about how hard it is to farm ochain, and durblahblahblah requires the same 75 colorless souls. So saying you shouldnt get an ochain to tank cause you can just do double the work and have 2 brds and tank on MNK and thats better is just kind of....

You're giving them way more attention than they deserve. Obvious troll is obvious, etc.

[Rearden]

Well he's also ignoring that half of the shit you fight wipes your buffs, halves your HP and can oneshot you in MDT gear after you've lost your buffs but that ALSO implies he wasn't trolling and has actually fought any of this VW stuff.

[MarkovChain]

Where do you care about magic damage taken ?

[Kimble]

Voidwatch? Do you not know they cast pretty strong magic?

Voidwaught is biggest one I can think of.

[Rearden]

Caelano can also hit the insta-kill button if you get dispelled->aeroja/AerogaIV etc.

Mobs in Stage 2 vary, I think all casted high tier magic but some of them didn't hit hard, others hit really hard. Most of them also took more/less damage from melee/magic (one form superior to the other), with one of them even having different stances

[Pyrobunny]

Ok i'm also close to finishing this trial (souls). We have one T3 abyssite left and 2 souls to go. Very likely i'm gonna have to ask a friend to use/buy one of their T3 pops because i'm that sick of upgrading T2s.

I've mentioned in other threads that T1 to T2 is NOT an "issue". Yeah it can take a while some times. I eventually just found it humorous when it would take me 20+ kills.

But for the past month and a half, I have been going out to zones with my lsmates to upgrade T2 abyssites all the while negotiating with other groups who were there for seals (or color ups). I can go solo Koios during off peak server hours if nobody was there (I would not solo with a group there out of courtesy if they were there coloring up - I would just ask they let me know when they were done). I can solo Chione with temps but only did that a couple of times when there was no competition (oddly enough I colored up both times to T3).

Sometimes I would be doing these VNM every 10-15 minutes and not get a color up for 3 or 4 hours. Those were definitely the most annoying times. Whenever I had to go back to town without any T3 pops added to the stock I was frustrated.

I pretty much have for the past 40-45 days gone to color up T2 abyssites for like 75% of my play time. Thankfully my linkshell has been super awesome at helping me color up in all three zones. If it wasn't for them I would probably not even be halfway done with souls.

I think it also helped me that I am doing the souls chiefly first. Since it is the hardest trial, I figured it would make the Iron Giants and Azdajas go by that much quicker.

Also to address the assumption that you would require 75 Brulo or Maere kills to get 75 souls - they won't ALWAYS single drop. Actually we got Brulo to double drop 10 times out of 27. Maere however was much more stingy, double dropping only once out of 11 pops. The other 24 souls came from Ogo - and even he single dropped on us a few times.

If I could add one suggestion regarding the T3 VNM - could it be possible to make them have alliance hate when they are popped? We were fortunate to have this happen to us only once, but one member popped Ogopogo then took a Waterga IV to the face. He ended up dying and Ogo depopped. And yeah someone should've done something to Ogo to not cause him to depop, but still given that you lose the Abyssite immediately when you pop him, it sucks to see a few hours worth of work (the pop) disappear like that.

i helped \(`0`)/ and yea these VNM can suck it