Bully: it's really bad.

[Arcon]

Why is this so amazing? It's a 30 second duration and 3 min recast which means at best 1 free SA. While soloing this is good, but for HNM this is meh considering it's not too hard to SA behind the mob. Also does this mean they removed the 'easier to proc TH effect" from Bully?

HNM like Fafhogg, where you can just go behind the mob and SA, right? Soloing/Duoing is where it's at for most people. So this is great for that. And it's not "at best 1", it's "at least 1, at best 2" free SA.

[Laphine]

In 1 week bully has gone from pure garbage to one of the best JAs THF has. Anyone not happy with this change is just trying to be unhappy.

lol yeah, i'll give you this. I still hope we see more tweeks tho! 1min duration (Yes,please.)!

[Phen]

It also every 3 minutes means you dont have to worry about someone hitting hate back and it spinning(thats pretty common). Also the TH loss is probably to make up for the fact that even solo you can now get the enhanced TH proc rate from SA which is probably as effective as bully was. This is really functional now, also the original intimidate(even minor) on top of that.

[Insaniac]

This makes me very happy. For solo / Duo this is amazing. For groups its also pretty damn good.

I agree 100%. For once a 3 minute timer is actually justified. This JA would be amazing without the intimidation effect and ghetto claim tool aspect. I'm super happy about this. Hopefully this is the first good news in a series. =)

[Valisk]

Maybe you need to read more into the posts and do less of the speed reading. From a technical point of view a THF tank(or whatever case that might have hate focused on the THF)is getting an extra forced crit every 3 minutes, and up to 2 if they time it right.

We're not saying it's magically providing another forced crit on top of SATA, we're saying that because we can SA from any direction it's giving us forced crits when before we didn't have the option due to SA requirements.

Speed reading huh? Maybe you should stop speed posting and think about what you're writing before sending it. First of all, don't say "we're" like you're speaking for everyone because I've seen at least 3 posts speaking of an additional hit or Sneak Attack hidden effect. Secondly, I wasn't talking about those saying we can now SA once every 3 minutes when we otherwise wouldn't be able to. I'm referring to those who are implying that Bully allows us to force critical in addition to SA and TA.

[Insaniac]

lol yeah, i'll give you this. I still hope we see more tweeks tho! 1min duration (Yes,please.)!

I'm sure we will see merits/gear to either increase the duration or lower the recast. Hopefully not intimidation rate! Start taking notes now devs!!

[Nebo]

Speed reading huh? Maybe you should stop speed posting and think about what you're writing before sending it. First of all, don't say "we're" like you're speaking for everyone because I've seen at least 3 posts speaking of an additional hit or Sneak Attack hidden effect. Secondly, I wasn't talking about those saying we can now SA once every 3 minutes when we otherwise wouldn't be able to. I'm referring to those who are implying that Bully allows us to force critical in addition to SA and TA.

Where did anyone say they thought that Bully was a force crit JA?

Edit: Also, I'm pretty stoked about this change. AS for the TH enhancement effect being removed, being able to Sneak Attack (for increased chance when solo) more often is just as good (if not better).

Edit 2: The question also remains: will ANYONE one hate be able to land SA from any angle under Bully effect (as its an effect placed upon the mob) or will it just be the THF that gave the effect?

hmmm.

[Tiberius]

I am quite pleased with the change for Bully. I thought it was going to be a crap ability (and it was), but this is pretty good, even if it is only every 3 minutes. Maybe this could be added to Merits someday to further increase usefulness.

[Nynja]

Edit 2: The question also remains: will ANYONE one hate be able to land SA from any angle under Bully effect (as its an effect placed upon the mob) or will it just be the THF that gave the effect?

Should be easy enough for anyone on the test server to try it out.

[Alaik]

so a SA-hide effect even if you have enimity on the target. ok. not too impressing.

You don't get it. It's an actual buff, even if it's minor. Do you realize how LONG that's been?

We get worthless shit or nerfs. This is our first good buff in a very long time. So of course we're happy.