Bully: it's really bad.

[Reaux]

I am happy they listened to us on this one finally. It took a lot of QQing and screaming to get it but finally we got something far more useful than we what was originally intended, especially after the initial change to extra TH proc they wanted to give us. This now makes it more useful for solo/small groups as well as party play.

The 3 min recast still feels a little long for only a 30 sec duration, otherwise the ability to intimidate and SA from any able is pretty nice. I wonder if we will get gear that increases the duration/effect or recast of it?

[FrankReynolds]

I am happy they listened to us on this one finally. It took a lot of QQing and screaming to get it but finally we got something far more useful than we what was originally intended, especially after the initial change to extra TH proc they wanted to give us. This now makes it more useful for solo/small groups as well as party play.

The 3 min recast still feels a little long for only a 30 sec duration, otherwise the ability to intimidate and SA from any able is pretty nice. I wonder if we will get gear that increases the duration/effect or recast of it?

I'm happy as hell too, but honestly I wouldn't care if it was 10 second duration if they lowered the recast (prays for merits).

[noodles355]

I'd be pretty happy with 1/3 SAs being from any angle. That is a very significant boost to your damage. I'd even go as far as saying being able to make it 2min so you could do every other SA would actually be a bit overpowered and undermine the whole point of Sneak Attack. A 3rd of your SAs dont have to be from behind. That is powerful.

[Babekeke]

This is awesome, but the pessimist in me can't help but think that too many people are loving this, so it's bound to be nerfed. 10 min recast sounds about what SE feel we actually deserve.

I think while soloing NMs, I'll be turning my back for 30 secs every 3 mins to make sure I get 2 SAs in to boost up the TH (because I can). Then there's always hide for every other non-bully'd SA if fighting a sight only NM XD 5/6 SAs when soloing /drool^^

[Arcon]

I'd be pretty happy with 1/3 SAs being from any angle. That is a very significant boost to your damage. I'd even go as far as saying being able to make it 2min so you could do every other SA would actually be a bit overpowered and undermine the whole point of Sneak Attack. A 3rd of your SAs dont have to be from behind. That is powerful.

Can be up to 66% of your SAs even, even with constantly SAing, depending on the situation. Although harder to do when soloing, that is true.

Edit:

This is awesome, but the pessimist in me can't help but think that too many people are loving this, so it's bound to be nerfed. 10 min recast sounds about what SE feel we actually deserve.

It's kinda funny, but the reason so many people like it is not because it is actually an amazing ability, but because our standards have been so low for such a long time that we take anything we can get and are happy about it.

[Karbuncle]

I dunno Babek, Something tells me they'll do Bully right this time, and keep it at 3 minute timer/30sec Duration. On a side note, anyone wanna brainstorm our level 99 Merit choices?

Conspirator Effect - Increases Accuracy by 2, and Subtle Blow by 2 (useless)
Despoil Effect Duration - Increases Despoil debuff duration by 3 seconds (useless)
Bully - Increases Intimidation rate by 2 (Useless)

Thats the pessimist in me. The positive in me hopes for

Tier 1
Conspirator Duration: Increases Duration by 10s
Bully Recast: Reduces Recast by 5s
Collaborator Recast: - Reduces Recast by 3s
Accomplice Recast - Reduces Recast by 15s
Quadruple Attack - Increases Quadruple Attack by 1

Tier 2
Stealth(JT) - Increases Sneak Attack potency by 2% per level, and adds a 3% Attack boost per level.
Framework(JT) -Increases Trick Attack potency by 2% per level, and adds a 3% Attack Boost per level.
Plunder(JT) - Adds a Stun Effect to Mug. Additional Merits reduce Recast by 2:30
Full Assault(JA) - Next Weaponskill gain the ability to ignore defense.* Additional Merits increase amount ignored by 5%.

*Full assault: Recast 5min - Amount ignored base = 30%. Capped merits = 50%

[FrankReynolds]

I dunno Babek, Something tells me they'll do Bully right this time, and keep it at 3 minute timer/30sec Duration. On a side note, anyone wanna brainstorm our level 99 Merit choices?

Conspirator Effect - Increases Accuracy by 2, and Subtle Blow by 2 (useless)
Despoil Effect Duration - Increases Despoil debuff duration by 3 seconds (useless)
Bully - Increases Intimidation rate by 2 (Useless)

Thats the pessimist in me. The positive in me hopes for

Tier 1
Conspirator Duration: Increases Duration by 10s
Bully Recast: Reduces Recast by 5s
Collaborator Recast: - Reduces Recast by 3s
Accomplice Recast - Reduces Recast by 15s
Quadruple Attack - Increases Quadruple Attack by 1

Tier 2
Stealth(JT) - Increases Sneak Attack potency by 2% per level, and adds a 3% Attack boost per level.
Framework(JT) -Increases Trick Attack potency by 2% per level, and adds a 3% Attack Boost per level.
Plunder(JT) - Adds a Stun Effect to Mug. Additional Merits reduce Recast by 2:30
Full Assault(JA) - Next Weaponskill gain the ability to ignore defense.* Additional Merits increase amount ignored by 5%.

*Full assault: Recast 5min - Amount ignored base = 30%. Capped merits = 50%

I like the positive merits better. Approved.

[Nebo]

I guess this is our answer as to whether or not they are ever going to add a trait or change Sneak Attack to line of sight instead of directly behind.

[noodles355]

for general damage purposes I definitely wouldn't turn for 30secs to get 2 SAs off, but for TH upgrades that is pretty awesome when tankking.

[Xellith]

You should just let us use sneak attack from any angle.