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[Swords]

Good Lord, not this again... It drives me crazy to think people are so quick to shoot down the original advertised Archtype, but seem to be married to the month old Manifesto. It's not that I don't welcome improvements in any aspect of RDM, Lord knows we've hardly gotten anything since the original redesign, but we know SE is notorious for saying one thing and doing the opposite yet many seem to be sold that description in the Manifesto is absolute.

Besides, for all we know SE is just prepping for the 99 update, and being we cannot do more than speculate on what they tell us. We cannot really say whats in store for RDM, or what SE is planning to do with the game in general.

Note: Not posting at anyone in particular but people have been throwing around the Manifesto alot lately.

[Stylin]

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There is a difference between debunking and merely responding. You're not providing any evidence as to why Red Mage should be more than what it is other than "But I want it to be a buffer! QQ" In fact, all you've shown is that you're fully aware it's not. I hope you realize that you just painted yourself to be a gigantic hypocrite.

"But the manifesto says..!"

Listen, Square had promised in the past that they were going to bring RDM to the front lines. Camate has already stated that they were looking into enhancing a Red Mages martial prowess. Or is that just a case of Square "appeasing the evil DD RDMs"?

The fact of the matter is you were lied to and you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

[FrankReynolds]

There is a difference between debunking and merely responding. You're not providing any evidence as to why Red Mage should be more than what it is other than "But I want it to be a buffer! QQ" In fact, all you've shown is that you're fully aware it's not. I hope you realize that you just painted yourself to be a gigantic hypocrite.

"But the manifesto says..!"

Listen, Square had promised in the past that they were going to bring RDM to the front lines. Camate has already stated that they were looking into enhancing a Red Mages martial prowess. Or is that just a case of Square "appeasing the evil DD RDMs"?

The fact of the matter is you were lied to and you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

Funny, in that thread he says: "As was stated in the preface of the job adjustments concept, the core concept of these adjustments is to make each job useful in HNM fights as well as other battle-related content. That said, we mentioned that the job adjustments will focus on party structuring, but that doesn’t mean that we will not be looking into the sword-wielding proficiency of red mages. We are actually planning adjustments to red mage’s proficiencies in the upcoming version update."

Sword play is hardly the focus of this reponse. It is an after thought. thanks for digging that up.
Every other question / response is regarding enfeebling and enhancing.

[Stylin]

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Your reading comprehension is rather lack-luster.

but that doesn’t mean that we will not be looking into the sword-wielding proficiency of red mages.

At what point did you get the impression that sword and magic had to be mutually exclusive?

There's actually one question regarding enhancing magic. Everything else is in regards to martial skill and enfeebling.

edit for clarity: I'll give you that enspells are enhancing magic. However, they are a melee supplement, not enhancing magic in the sense of party support like you seem to be suggesting.

[FrankReynolds]

Your reading comprehension is rather lack-luster.



At what point did you get the impression that sword and magic had to be mutually exclusive?

at the point where he said: "but that doesn’t mean that we will not be looking into the sword-wielding proficiency of red mages" as if it had nothing to do with ---> "the core concept of these adjustments is to make each job useful in HNM fights as well as other battle-related content. That said, we mentioned that the job adjustments will focus on party structuring"

see how he didnt say : "we will be looking into the sword-wielding proficiency of red mages to make each job useful in HNM fights as well as other battle-related content."

[Economizer]

At what point did you get the impression that sword and magic had to be mutually exclusive?

Probably around the same time that people got the impression that healing and meleeing were mutually exclusive job roles that could never be on the same job.

[Neisan_Quetz]

You go on about debuffs but even where RDM is concerned it's outdated there two. NIN can do the debuffs more or less to the same level as RDM, and in some cases purchased spells for NIN are as potenct as RDM's merits.

What, none of Nin's debuffs are better than Rdm's merit spells, only if you're comparing Kurayami: Ni to Blind 1 or Aisha to Bio 2.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

The Accuracy down of Blind caps at 30 as far as I was told.

Kurayami: Ni - Lowers an enemy's accuracy by 30.

You guys can pop that BS all day, but the fact is that when you are on the front line poking and taking damage, you are not curing, hasting, slowing, paralyzing, blinding, diaing, addling, poisoning, refreshing etc. like you are supposed to be. Hell if you cast any of that shit you completely lose all dd efficiency and purpose on the front line due to constant casting. and thats not even taking into account that you are casting in swords now. Give it up and request that SE give us something that helps us with our enfeebling and buffs like they said they would. Quit being childish and trying to act like everyone needs to be doing that crap.

Lovely bullshine!!

Thanks for that, adds so much! You really shouldn't be so helpful and on-topic....

[FrankReynolds]

Thanks for that, adds so much! You really shouldn't be so helpful and on-topic....

That was on topic. this thread is about a much debated spell that gives a mediocre improvement to melee, which my post clearly stated we did not need. you on the other hand are debating the effects of ninjitsu.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

That was on topic. this thread is about a much debated spell that gives a mediocre improvement to melee, which my post clearly stated we did not need. you on the other hand are debating the effects of ninjitsu.

That post had nothing to do with the spell... Why lie?

It was another in the countless anti-melee posts, that was it. Claiming once again that RDM was an enhancer.