Idiocy

[Vortex]

I mostly still sub /rdm on WHM for fast cast trait and refresh on other mages in same party... as well for dispel when needed. Rest of the gear I wear mitigates cost of MP, especially orison +2 pants. So.... yeah.

Sigh..... let's see where do i start...

Light arts has an inate fast cast attached to it...tho it isn't as strong as fast cast from rdm it is still considirable enough to use over /rdm because it's a very minor diffrence.

/sch already has dispel..you just need to use dark arts and black addendem, free dispel is the only good thing about /rdm but in all honesty, that should not be your priority as whm outside procing yellow in abyssea.

refresh on others? if a party needs refresh that badly they can get a rdm or hell, even get a blm/rdm to do it. that is not a valid excuse for /rdm if a blm in the party they can usually refresh them selves, pld? lol won't even get into that.

need i go on? seriously, it sucks. you depend entirly on refresh because you are running out of mp TO fast. i don't want to get into this with another whm again..try the 2 one day extensivly, and see which one is truely better.

Orison pants +2 in no way makes up the 10% Mp cost reduction light arts gives to ALL spells....

if you still have trouble figuring it out the primary reason /sch beats any other sub is because of that 10% recution on TOP of the conserve Mp trait /sch has. as well as sublimation /rdm can not come close to that to a good whm, even with the false hope convert.

[DebbieGibson]

I use /rdm for vert and refresh. Its undeniably stronger than llight arts MP savings.

[Vortex]

I use /rdm for vert and refresh. Its undeniably stronger than llight arts MP savings.

Well i know you are trolling, nm.

[MarkovChain]

Do you factor in the fact that whm/rdm has a mp pool at leasr twice higher than whm/sch due to convert¿

[Vortex]

Do you factor in the fact that whm/rdm has a mp pool at leasr twice higher than whm/sch due to convert¿

Do you realize that whm/rdm runs out much faster due to everythign costing full? it may "look" like they have twice the pool but they go through as fast as just having one. the time it takes in the same situation that a whm/rdm runs out of mp, converts and runs out again, a proper whm/sch will still have over half mp, i have both subs and have played around with both. /sch wins, hands down, not discussing this crap again. i don't expect people know how to use WHM properly. hence my statment eariler that if you don't see the disadvantages of /rdm you won't ever.

[Soranika]

Points well taken. I won't argue with which subjob is better. I've never had any particular inefficiency issues with MP because of subbing /rdm either, even when having to bomb Cure V with not time to recoup spent MP.

Also MM atma isn't enough for BLM in Abyssea so supplementing refresh for them is a huge help.

[Vortex]

Points well taken. I won't argue with which subjob is better. I've never had any particular inefficiency issues with MP because of subbing /rdm either, even when having to bomb Cure V with not time to recoup spent MP.

Also MM atma isn't enough for BLM in Abyssea so supplementing refresh for them is a huge help.

In abyssea you can pretty much get away with any sub. it's outside is where you see the biggest diffrence, some fights however, can be very draining. try curing a MNK/WAR vs empousa or indrik for example..

BLm can refresh them selves, unless they are subbing whm for some odd, dumb reason outside procing.

[DebbieGibson]

I did the math on this at 75 comparing rdm and whm/sch. I do not see how it could have changed since.

[Vortex]

I did the math on this at 75 comparing rdm and whm/sch. I do not see how it could have changed since.

oh wow, really, 75, cause you know new gear was never added, and stats/ mp never increased. yes it is EXACLTY the same at 75.

pssst it was better at 75 to.

you're a funny troll.

[MarkovChain]

Do you realize that whm/rdm runs out much faster due to everythign costing full? it may "look" like they have twice the pool but they go through as fast as just having one. the time it takes in the same situation that a whm/rdm runs out of mp, converts and runs out again, a proper whm/sch will still have over half mp, i have both subs and have played around with both. /sch wins, hands down, not discussing this crap again. i don't expect people know how to use WHM properly. hence my statment eariler that if you don't see the disadvantages of /rdm you won't ever.

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