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    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    I prefer rdm sub just because I don't have to use job abilities to gain access to dispel.

    To keep dispel available I have to keep Addendum: Black on, which means I can't switch back to Light Arts without losing it, and Dark Arts increases casting time and MP cost on my cures.

    This is for my lowman stuff though. If someone else has dispel I use /sch.
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    Player Rosina's Avatar
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    I realy wish people would stop talking like they speak for the player base.

    I play the game and have fun just fine, and I'm not leet. You do not need to have a leet puppet to be strong. You just need to know how to use the attachments skilfully. In a qufim party back in feb. My tank puppet out tanked a pld. (granted she was being lazy) I just had basic attachments. and my pup tanked fine. barely needed to use oils.

    anyway I think most ppl here lost the understanding of the term "video game" and "fun" as well as "being the same is boring as heck"



    Night guys.
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    Player user201108211515's Avatar
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    that mask is sick
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    Player Lojinxx's Avatar
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    what a bunch of whiney bitches.
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    Player Neonii's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horadrim View Post
    Seem, I'm no proponent of complainers and whiners -- more often enough I go against people begging for things for jobs....

    But then, there's this blaring issue of SE designing the game in a direction that alienates jobs and trying to say "oh, the next bit of content is good for you."

    No, every piece of content should be accessible to all jobs. Its nice to have the option to level up multiple jobs, but when you turn that into a demand it becomes ridiculous.

    Puppetmaster, when it first came out, was one of the most appealing and amazing sounds jobs in FFXI to me. You got a stagnant pet that you could upgrade and customize -- it was like Summoner without the perpetuation cost and Beastmaster with more ownership of the actual pet.

    And since, it has been nothing but a disappointment. Anytime Puppetmaster caught a break, it was patched out as a glitch, and there hasn't been a single event where Puppetmaster was the preferred job. (I guess for a while Salvage was one, but even that wasn't a huge deal.)

    Scholar was haphazardly handled and treated like it was going to be some kind of wholly special and unique mage class, then they turned it into a hyper complicated version of Red Mage and billed it like it was the nuking side of Red Mage's melee --- even though they've gone out of their way to keep Red Mages melee from being the preferred play style. So you end up with a thrown together excuse for a mage job with a joke role of "versatile mage" and nothing to offer on either side of its proposed abilities. If you've got electrical problems, are you going to call the general repairman who might be able to help, or the Master Electrician who can probably tell you exactly what's wrong over the phone? I think its pretty obvious.

    And I agree with people when they say Scholar shouldn't be able to outnuke Black Mage or outcure White Mage -- they, in FFXI light, should be completely different from that. There are so many design options, and yet in lieu of any that could have worked to make Scholar a job you want to find to invite ALONG SIDE a Black Mage or White Mage -- we ended up here, in a world specifically designed to where its either White Mage, Black Mage, or bust.

    And the list goes on across other jobs with regard to the blaring and ridiculous balance issues that should have been resolved years ago and just managed to get worse with the creation of Abyssea.

    The update looks interesting and fun on the surface, but only when coming from the point of view of one of the jobs that isn't painfully unusable in 70-90% of the most active content. For those of us playing jobs with major issues, say Paladin, Dragoon, Puppetmaster, Scholar... its just another slap in the face. I don't see what's wrong, frankly, with wanting to be able to actually go to events and PLAY THE GAME on a job you actually like to play, as opposed to having to toss gear around anytime someone's doing an event so you can swap to a job you only have leveled because no one wants your main. And fine, the game's moving away from Abyssea -- but I can guarantee you, at this rate, the odds of me being able to do anything that comes out for level 96-99 with PUP are slim to none. And that, quite simply, is stupid.
    I so agree with general direction of both of these post. Here is what I propose, maybe the game designers should spend the next month or so playing the character they design in real time, on real servers, with real players and then make adjustments based on their observations. I would love for the head summoner to spend time actually playing one from a players point of view. The thing I loved about my last online game is that in any given situation most jobs if not all jobs could find a niche. Its also the thing I miss most about that game that and the sense of community. Oh well all good things come to an end.

    Anyway back to topic I wish my fellow players would join me and ask the developers to take time to actually play in real time. Thing is they need to play the character they design so they can really understand what they are designing. On that last online game the developers used to (insert your favorite word) to the characters and spend quality time discussing them with the players. They had a whole section dedicated to class balance when they did class balance. The developer himself/herself would propose a change then ask the players to discuss. They would read the discussion and the developer personally would have the conversation with the players. S.E. maybe could take some hints from those folks.
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    Last edited by Neonii; 08-20-2011 at 09:08 PM.

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    Player DebbieGibson's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    I /SCH on every mage job (except SMN) simply because of the MP cost - on "arts"

    I see /RDM WHMs run out of MP much faster than I do on /SCH
    Weird.

    A subbed thf is possibly just as potent as thf main for th purposes.
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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    I /SCH on every mage job (except SMN) simply because of the MP cost - on "arts"

    I see /RDM WHMs run out of MP much faster than I do on /SCH
    This is something i'v been trying to beat into every whms head but swear "well refresh convert etc etc etc" none of them seem to realize you run out of MP faster with shitty rdm sub because every spell you cast is getting the FULL MP cost..

    but i gave up on fighting abyssea breed whms, so w/e
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    Player Soranika's Avatar
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    I mostly still sub /rdm on WHM for fast cast trait and refresh on other mages in same party... as well for dispel when needed. Rest of the gear I wear mitigates cost of MP, especially orison +2 pants. So.... yeah.
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    Main Job: SMN95 <Hvergelmir 85 obtained 9/10/11>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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