Merton Vs Odin: What the hell SE?

[Tannlore]

Yep it was used in the video.

Ah so! I missed that. Still cool and not hard to get refreshed in Abyssea at least. ISL.... go!

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I'm sorry, this spell can only be casted under the effect of SCH's 2 hour?

p.s. Also Odin is Frontcone attack Merton is AoE around target?

[Elexia]

I'm sorry, this spell can only be casted under the effect of SCH's 2 hour?

p.s. Also Odin is Frontcone attack Merton is AoE around target?

Yep, they stated we're getting something specific under Tabula Rasa, this is it. What isn't known is the resistance rates versus things like NMs let alone requirements beyond Tabula Rasa, since it's not new if it's a rare/ex scroll from some quest, or if god forbid it get tossed into magians somehow.

[Malamasala]

Elexia, it is not about some other job getting the same ability, it is about someone getting a three times as good ability.

When using Odin you roughly have 100% chance to kill first mob, 50% to kill second, 25% to kill third, 12% to kill fourth, 6% to kill fifth... (exaggerated, but spot on that you'll rarely ever kill 5 monsters). In this SCH just uses its JA's and killed 10.

Average 3 monsters vs 10... 3 times the killing power. That is the issue. You can even have all my avatars on SCH, I won't care. But they better not do triple damage when used by a SCH, that will upset my balance senses. (These are like spider senses)


I've got SCH leveled myself. I haven't noticed anything negative with it at all, except that I can't sleep while main healing since I'll be in light arts mode. It is a lot of fun, I just don't have the energy to equip it well so I'm a gimp. I've actually not parsed it, but I think my gimp SCH can out-DD my maxed out SMN. Some chance of death there though.

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Yep, they stated we're getting something specific under Tabula Rasa, this is it. What isn't known is the resistance rates versus things like NMs let alone requirements beyond Tabula Rasa, since it's not new if it's a rare/ex scroll from some quest, or if god forbid it get tossed into magians somehow.

Thanks, that being said I don't know why people think this thread is for complaining the OP is just asking SE to re-look at Odin if deemed necessary.

I to would like SE to reevaluate Odin and his uses. If sch can preform Odin task better I'm happy for them however Please revamp Odin.

[Korpg]

Elexia, it is not about some other job getting the same ability, it is about someone getting a three times as good ability.

When using Odin you roughly have 100% chance to kill first mob, 50% to kill second, 25% to kill third, 12% to kill fourth, 6% to kill fifth... (exaggerated, but spot on that you'll rarely ever kill 5 monsters). In this SCH just uses its JA's and killed 10.

Average 3 monsters vs 10... 3 times the killing power. That is the issue. You can even have all my avatars on SCH, I won't care. But they better not do triple damage when used by a SCH, that will upset my balance senses. (These are like spider senses)


I've got SCH leveled myself. I haven't noticed anything negative with it at all, except that I can't sleep while main healing since I'll be in light arts mode. It is a lot of fun, I just don't have the energy to equip it well so I'm a gimp. I've actually not parsed it, but I think my gimp SCH can out-DD my maxed out SMN. Some chance of death there though.

Just stop typing. You don't know the difference between damage and an enfeeble, and how resist rates effect both of them differently. Yes, Death is an enfeeble, since it is cast on the mob and doesn't do damage, but instead it gives the mob a status effect (Mob receives the effect of KO). Stop trying to convince people that you know what you are talking about when you make a post like this.

[Elexia]

Elexia, it is not about some other job getting the same ability, it is about someone getting a three times as good ability.

When using Odin you roughly have 100% chance to kill first mob, 50% to kill second, 25% to kill third, 12% to kill fourth, 6% to kill fifth... (exaggerated, but spot on that you'll rarely ever kill 5 monsters). In this SCH just uses its JA's and killed 10.

Average 3 monsters vs 10... 3 times the killing power. That is the issue. You can even have all my avatars on SCH, I won't care. But they better not do triple damage when used by a SCH, that will upset my balance senses. (These are like spider senses)


I've got SCH leveled myself. I haven't noticed anything negative with it at all, except that I can't sleep while main healing since I'll be in light arts mode. It is a lot of fun, I just don't have the energy to equip it well so I'm a gimp. I've actually not parsed it, but I think my gimp SCH can out-DD my maxed out SMN. Some chance of death there though.

It didn't use a JA, it used it's 2 hour, just like SMN has to. No one knows anything about this spell beyond that it's powerful and leaves a DoT. We don't know the resist rates, we don't know the MP cost, we don't know what affects it's accuracy yet, we don't know how to obtain it etc.

Everything is balanced, in order to get Odin you have to be decently far in the ToAU storyline if not complete, then as you said, there's accuracy issues given that 1 mob is almost always guaranteed, while groups it goes down in accuracy. That's balance.

I've seen BLMs solo the worm camp including megamaw and no one is crying foul >.>.

[Korpg]

btw, the first hit isn't 100% death, there has been a lot of times where the first hit missed but the other hits actually killed the mobs.

Also, there has been times where, when using Zantentsuken on one mob, it still missed.

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btw, the first hit isn't 100% death, there has been a lot of times where the first hit missed but the other hits actually killed the mobs.

Also, there has been times where, when using Zantentsuken on one mob, it still missed.

How much MP did that person have?

[Korpg]

How much MP did that person have?

I had 100% MP (just got 2hr chest and Zantentsuken only hit one mob and still wiffed).