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    Player Anucris's Avatar
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    The discussion was never about what was better. And it's ok for me to say what I want. U still not have full +2 set noodles. So sad. And is ur ws set still so weak? With all that +1 and all. Point is there good not crap especially nice for ws. And u can still have 26% haste without takin up the glove slot and in that case it would be dumb and a waste. And everyone knows a maxed haste set is best for tp dunno why u think u gotta educate pple on what they already know. Do u ever post any good ideas noodles or just go through forums trolling? On most forums ur arguing with someone. Ur pathetic and don't know it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anucris View Post
    The discussion was never about what was better. And it's ok for me to say what I want. U still not have full +2 set noodles. So sad. And is ur ws set still so weak? With all that +1 and all. Point is there good not crap especially nice for ws. And u can still have 26% haste without takin up the glove slot and in that case it would be dumb and a waste. And everyone knows a maxed haste set is best for tp dunno why u think u gotta educate pple on what they already know. Do u ever post any good ideas noodles or just go through forums trolling? On most forums ur arguing with someone. Ur pathetic and don't know it all.
    Just stop. Put down the spade and stop digging yourself a hole.
    Options for 26% Haste not using gloves:
    AF3+2 Head 6%. Relic+1/Timarli Body 2%. Bullwhip 7%. Ace's/Bestia 4%. AF3+2 Feet 5%. AF3 Back 1%. Blitz Ring 1%.

    Do you know why that set is absolutely terribad? Let's examine it in detail.
    You're not using one of Goading Belt, Ace's Leggings, or AF3+1/+2/Askar/Aurum Body. That means you don't have a 6 hit.
    To get that 6Hit, you'd need Rose Strap. Meaning you're not using Pole Strap.
    You're using Lancer's Pelerine instead of Atheling Mantle which is better.

    The whole point is you wanting to use the +2 Hands. The point of that is for 2 things: The 5/5 set bonus, and the 4% DA. You can't get the 5/5 set bonus because you need to use a Haste body piece and a haste leg piece. You gain 4% DA from the hands but you lose 5% DA from not using Pole Grip and Athelling Mantle. A terrible option all togeather

    You could use Zeleus Tiara over AF3+2 head. However with Bullwhip and AF3+2 feet you still need 6% more haste. Meaning haste +4 legs, AF3 back and blitz ring.
    What you've basically done here is go:
    AF3+2 head > Zeleus
    Ace's hands > AF3+2
    Atheling Mantle > AF3
    Whatever ring > Blitz. Let's say Pyrosoul Ring.
    Everything else stays the same. Now, let's compare those sets:
    You still have 3/5 set bonus. You still have 26% haste. You have a 6hit.
    You gain 1% DA and 15 Accuracy. You lose 1-2 fStr and 51 Attack. Accuracy is almost always capped on anything you'd bring Drg too, so you're looking at 1% DA vs 1-2 fStr and 51 Attack. Assuming 7% DA from other sources and how about a 30%TP/20% Jump/50% WS damage split as that heavilly favours the DA over the attack. 1% DA will give 0.9% increase to you're total DoT
    Say you have 650 Attack, against an enemy 7 levels above you with 400 Defence. Adding 50 Attack will be a boost of 7.7% to your TP phase, which is 30% of your total DoT, that's a 1.54% increase to your total DoT.

    Notice: I didn't take into account the 1-2 fStr you lose.
    I used a TP/Jump/WS ratio that favours DA over Attack/Str.
    I used a high attack value. With no buffs you're Attack in TP set will be only around 550~ish. This diminishes the affact of +Attack.

    So I heavillly favoured the DA and yet it still lost.

    In conclusion: You're just wrong.
    How does it feel to know that someone who never plays drg, who has worse gear than you is still a better dragoon then you could ever hope to be? You are a shining example of the old phrase "Has all the gear, but has no idea".

    Edit: Oh, and I forgot about the newish Haste/DA/TA legs, which you would use in the Ace's hands set alongside blitz ring. At this point the other option is completely beaten into the ground.

    Best 6hit TP set for standard lance would probably be AF3+2 head, body and feet, ace's hands, the haste/da/ta legs, bullwhip, atheling, blitz, rajas, brutal and whatever neck and 2nd earring.
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    Last edited by noodles355; 08-13-2011 at 03:37 PM.

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    Wow u wasted a lot of time on that and I'm def not reading that much lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anucris View Post
    Wow u wasted a lot of time on that and I'm def not reading that much lol
    I'll shorten it down for your simple brain: You lost the argument.
    AF3+2 for TP are fail. Every build with AF3+2 hands and 26% haste is shit compared to a 26% Ace's Hands set.

    You know, a bigger person would have stepped up and said "Wow, guess you were right. Oh well, now I know" or something similar when someone provided detailed and thought-out infomation and proof to try and show you a better way of playing. There's infomation there which would help you make decisions to become a better drg, yet you want to ignore them? If your ego is so large that you can't admit you were wrong and take the infomation in order to make yourself a better player then that's just too bad.

    It amazes me how hard some people find it to actually admit they are wrong.
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    Last edited by noodles355; 08-15-2011 at 05:12 PM.