ffxiv isnt so much a flop anymore, its getting better and better as they go. 1.18 was fantastic and 1.19 and 1.20 seem like they will be huge and fantastic as well. The only way its a flop for most current ffxi players is that it doesnt have the ease of lvling ppl have become accustomed to in the current incarnation of xi. Nearly my whole ls has moved to xiv because there is more to do there than there currently is on xi for ppl who have been playing xi for yrs, such as we all have

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