Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Karbuncle]

I have to say i agree with what Korpg is generally saying.

I like it when I'm soloing that my Avatar goes straight for the mob Im fighting. Without this Bomb-Soloing back in the day would have been impossible. Do not take this away, It is a benefit to the job in a lot of situations, just as much as it can be detrimental. However I will take the detriments if it means keeping the positives.

There is a simple solution for it, not being at the top of the hate list with a pet out. I admit its a problem for some people but removing it would be far worse in my eyes and in a lot of SMNs who use the job for more than being a bad healer.

[Byrth]

I'm pretty sure no one is asking for Avatars to stop auto-agroing monsters that are after the Summoner. They just don't want it to happen to slept monsters.

[Korpg]

Watch out Karby, he is going to start calling you a troll because you don't agree with him now.

[Korpg]

I'm pretty sure no one is asking for Avatars to stop auto-agroing monsters that are after the Summoner. They just don't want it to happen to slept monsters.

The avatars don't attack slept mobs because they are asleep though. That would be a problem if that is the case, and I fully agree with Tarage with that if that is the case. But it is not the case. He doesn't understand that there is a list of people on each mob's "list" in order of who has the most hate or not. He also doesn't understand that the avatar attacks any mob that the SMN is on top of that "list." Most everyone has known about this list for years, and SE even gave us the ability to look at that list (see: Libra).

He has not learned, and by the attitude he has been displaying on these forums, refuses to learn simple hate control aspects of this game. He is, by definition, a noob because of his lack of insight and refusal to adapt to situations.

[Karbuncle]

I'm pretty sure no one is asking for Avatars to stop auto-agroing monsters that are after the Summoner. They just don't want it to happen to slept monsters.

oh? I could have sworn that's exactly what he was asking for.

I'll have to reread, Regardless if all he's asking for is for Avatars to somehow detect/know if a mob is slept and to not attack it, I can't see that being a negative. If he's asking for the Auto-attack System as a whole to be removed I'm not on board.

Edit

1. Avatars should not auto-attack sleeping mobs.
2. Avatars should be able to be told what to attack from a further distance.
3. When an Avatar uses a BP on a mob and it does before the BP can go off, reset the BP timer.

Looks like he's only asking for pets not to attack sleeping mobs. Which i am on board with. Truthfully there is an easy solution (Not being on top of the hate list), but i agree it would be nice.

[Korpg]

oh? I could have sworn that's exactly what he was asking for.

I'll have to reread, Regardless if all he's asking for is for Avatars to somehow detect/know if a mob is slept and to not attack it, I can't see that being a negative. If he's asking for the Auto-attack System as a whole to be removed I'm not on board.

He is basically asking that anyway, for the auto-attack system to be removed. If the avatars refuse to attack a sleeping mob, that means that you can't hit assault or use Night Terror on sleeping mobs anymore. Which kills the whole idea of Night Terror anyway.

[Moink]

The only instance I see an avatar atatacking a slept mob is s/he tossed a cure on the person who slept those mobs and the avatar was standing idle. If the mobs are slept, then how did that person take enough damage to require a cure? If its a Nm I can understand an AoE attack hitting a mage but anything else... A SMN shouldnt need to cast a cure on the person casting sleep.

If the mobs awake and hit the mage and still take a decent amount of damage, it should still be the person casting sleep to toss a cure on his or herself.

[Tarage]

Keep lying and trolling Korpg. Never once did I say I wanted all of auto-attack to be taken away. That was an invention of your troll logic to keep this argument going.

Also I like how you don't read anything I say. Let me say it again, for the sake of everyone else trying to pay attention and getting caught up in your lies.

1. I only want avatars not to auto-attack sleeping mobs.
2. I do not want the removal of auto-attack on awake mobs.
3. I do not want to remove the ability to use the assault command on sleeping mobs.
4. If told by an avatar to attack a sleeping mob with the Assault command, or if slept is cast on a mob while the avatar is attacking it, the avatar should continue to attack it.

That's right folks. For anyone paying attention, they would realize the only part I want changed is for an avatar who has not been told by the SMN to attack a slept mob to not attack a slept mob. EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS THE SAME AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

He has no legs to stand on. He wants to argue to argue and will lie to accomplish this. Please join me in saying: Go away troll.

[Seha]

Trolltrolltrolltrolltrolltroll.
Whenever I read a post here there's someone calling someone else a troll. 98% of the time with no basis.

You know who's a real troll? This guy is a real troll! http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Gu...r_the_Menacing

[Supersun]

Yeah, but that troll sucks at trolling.

This guy is the king of trolls