Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Taint2]

Can we get some Paladin information? I think it's a little silly to expound thrice over on three or four jobs while completely ignoring the other sixteen. I only mention Paladin because it's currently the most useless job in the game, but anything other than "job already covered Part X" would be welcome.

PLD is making a solid comeback in VW.

[Selzak]

If SAM gets Amnesia and/or Terror and DRK doesn't then I'm calling SE racist, or whatever I want to feel better about how ridiculous that is.

[Horadrim]

If SAM gets Amnesia and/or Terror and DRK doesn't then I'm calling SE racist, or whatever I want to feel better about how ridiculous that is.

I have to admit, Terror effects should belong exclusively to Dark Knight and Beastmaster.

[Korpg]

Because sometimes they are very low on health from having sleep resists and might be dealing with other mobs. They might be low on MP. The healers may be busy on something else. It happens in Einherjar all the time.

Don't have sucky BLMs? Have more than 1 BLM sleep stuff? Know that you can't sleep undead or Rocs. Use Convert, they should heal themselves. Even in your example you should have a BLM dedicated in Sleep only. If they are low on MP, then it is their fault that they have the avatars wake the mobs.

Answer my question. Your first answer wasn't an answer. You have no valid reason for why an avatar should AUTO ATTACK a SLEEPING MOB. I do not mean Assaulting a sleeping mob. I do not mean auto attacking awake mobs. I do not mean regular attacking. I do not mean regular auto attacking awake mobs. You have no excuse not to understand what I am saying. Focus only on the bolded parts.

I don't answer your question because I know you will twist my words to make it so I have to agree with you. You still haven't answered my question in full. Why do you feel like you have to be a WHM when you are a SMN?

Also, you do realize that Cure IV gives out the most enmity when it comes to cure, right?

[Sparthos]

I have to admit, Terror effects should belong exclusively to Dark Knight and Beastmaster.

Sadly Feral Howl is garbage. There is no reason that Howl shouldn't be a one minute recast given all it does is stun an enemy.

Blue Mage has terrorize already and ask any BLU, it sucks.

[Karbuncle]

If they did Terror Right it could be useful, But i agree i think they underpower it far to much when its basically a glorified Stun.

Feral Howl Should have been 1minute Timer, with Additional Mertis Effecting Accuracy.

[Horadrim]

If they did Terror Right it could be useful, But i agree i think they underpower it far to much when its basically a glorified Stun.

Feral Howl Should have been 1minute Timer, with Additional Mertis Effecting Accuracy.

All the more reason for it to be beefed and accessible primarily by Dark Knight, a job that basically banks off of being terrifying, and Beastmaster, a job designed to represent wild ferocity.

[Urteil]

If SAM gets Amnesia and/or Terror and DRK doesn't then I'm calling SE racist, or whatever I want to feel better about how ridiculous that is.

Samurai getting Amnesia and or Terror, especially Terror is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time.


It ranks up there with the Samurai dual wielding two Great Katanas.




Uh can DRK have meditate and Store TP please? Also in a future update I request that we get Seigan/Hasso/Third Eye.

[Tarage]

Don't have sucky BLMs? Have more than 1 BLM sleep stuff? Know that you can't sleep undead or Rocs. Use Convert, they should heal themselves. Even in your example you should have a BLM dedicated in Sleep only. If they are low on MP, then it is their fault that they have the avatars wake the mobs.

I don't answer your question because I know you will twist my words to make it so I have to agree with you. You still haven't answered my question in full. Why do you feel like you have to be a WHM when you are a SMN?

Also, you do realize that Cure IV gives out the most enmity when it comes to cure, right?

Twist nothing. You are admitting you can't answer my question. I already told you that SMN has a vast amount of MP and when not BPing they can easily help cure people. It's how SMN was played since day one and there is no excuse to change it.

I'm done with you. Someone else posted explaining how insane it would be to require an avatar to auto attack a sleeping mob. Since you refuse to ever answer my question, I'm considering you a troll who has nothing better to do than argue. You've had BLMs tell you that you are wrong, you've had SMN tell you that you are wrong, and still you don't listen. Until you answer my question, this argument is over.

SE, please fix it so that Avatars do not auto-attack slept mobs. There is no situation where this is helpful and it only hinders SMN.

[Elexia]

Dumb idea is still dumb.

Next we'll have requests for BLU to use Forks because Quina did it in FFIX.

Why not? I'd take a Spork I could nearly solo Ozma with over crappy swords any day >.>